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Is it long term pain if a small startup in a very competitive vertical gets to market quicker with code gen and finds market fit? Whether that results in a rew

by tp3358 2mo ago

Is it long term pain if a small startup in a very competitive vertical gets to market quicker with code gen and finds market fit? Whether that results in a rewrite or a refactor, that is still a huge win and one that a lot of people will gamble on.

dgellow 2mo ago
Do you have examples? Ideally a startup that isn’t itself selling AI to other AI companies
- tp3358 2mo ago
  Example of startups/incumbents that are using AI to reinforce workflows? I am assuming you don't read up on this stuff much, but it's everywhere. I can give you multiple examples in my industry (logistics) that are actively using AI to speed up doc collection, invoicing, maintenance cycles, and in general, a lot of back office flows. These are just some of the bigger guys that are either raising seed funding or already well-established... I can't imagine all the small and obscure teams that are chasing the same thing. https://www.flexport.com/ https://www.flexport.com/ https://www.loop.com/ https://www.loop.com/ https://bubba.ai/ https://bubba.ai/ https://alvys.com/ https://alvys.com/ https://www.roserocket.com https://www.roserocket.com https://www.withterminal.com/ https://www.withterminal.com/ A lot of these guys have marketshare already and are weaving AI surgically through the stack, which is how people should be building. These aren't AI wrapper companies... these are companies that are leveraging AI to amplify their existing products. I am not sure why it's so hard for people to assume the semantical analysis that AI offers can't be leveraged properly inside of a product. Take this one post, and then extrapolate similar products across all verticals... that is currently the waters that are being tested. Law, healthcare, construction, etc - there all getting pressure tested for similar AI integrations.
florianherrengt 2mo ago
Debt is debt. Some of it is absolutely worth taking on. I don’t have any issue with intentional debt when you understand the trade-off and have a clear payoff plan.
jqpabc123 2mo ago
Is it long term pain Yes. Whether any gain is worth the pain is left as an exercise for the user.

by tp3358 2mo ago

dgellow 2mo ago

Do you have examples? Ideally a startup that isn’t itself selling AI to other AI companies

tp3358 2mo ago
Example of startups/incumbents that are using AI to reinforce workflows? I am assuming you don't read up on this stuff much, but it's everywhere. I can give you multiple examples in my industry (logistics) that are actively using AI to speed up doc collection, invoicing, maintenance cycles, and in general, a lot of back office flows. These are just some of the bigger guys that are either raising seed funding or already well-established... I can't imagine all the small and obscure teams that are chasing the same thing. https://www.flexport.com/ https://www.flexport.com/ https://www.loop.com/ https://www.loop.com/ https://bubba.ai/ https://bubba.ai/ https://alvys.com/ https://alvys.com/ https://www.roserocket.com https://www.roserocket.com https://www.withterminal.com/ https://www.withterminal.com/ A lot of these guys have marketshare already and are weaving AI surgically through the stack, which is how people should be building. These aren't AI wrapper companies... these are companies that are leveraging AI to amplify their existing products. I am not sure why it's so hard for people to assume the semantical analysis that AI offers can't be leveraged properly inside of a product. Take this one post, and then extrapolate similar products across all verticals... that is currently the waters that are being tested. Law, healthcare, construction, etc - there all getting pressure tested for similar AI integrations.

florianherrengt 2mo ago

Debt is debt. Some of it is absolutely worth taking on. I don’t have any issue with intentional debt when you understand the trade-off and have a clear payoff plan.

jqpabc123 2mo ago

Is it long term pain Yes. Whether any gain is worth the pain is left as an exercise for the user.