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I have already said, it's done by establishing trust by tying identity to images. Your assertions aren't a counter to that. You thinking they are shows a lack o
by jfyi 2mo ago
I have already said, it's done by establishing trust by tying identity to images. Your assertions aren't a counter to that. You thinking they are shows a lack of understanding of how to verify truth on a fundamental level.
Let's also list the points you have conceded by quietly giving them up:
1. Hacking the camera is irrelevant.
2. Images can be verified.
Do you want to actually engage with the conversation? The funny thing is that there are engineering challenges in this space, but you don't seem to understand the basics well enough to even get to that point.
- chrisjj 2mo ago> I have already said, it's done by establishing trust by tying identity to images. You've said it, but you've not credibly substantiated it. Imagine a famous photo journalist dies and there emerge "AI" fake pics signed with creds stolen from his hacked camera. Trust isn't part of a solution. It is part of the problem.
- jfyi 2mo agoThen the cert is pulled with a date and the timestamps on the images can be used to verify when they happened. This is generally how you'd handle theft. You can then also resign with a new cert at a later date. Besides, after a famous journalist dies, their work is already famous, people already know it or don't. This is a contrived and irrelevant example. Again, this is not hypothetical, we already know how this works. Next one please.
- chrisjj 2mo agoCreations often emerge after the creator deaths - fake or genuine.
- jfyi 2mo agoAnd that's problematic if the certificate is also stolen at the same time, but that's why there is an authority to validate issues and address what needs to be done to resolve them. Next one please.
- chrisjj 2mo agoSo, there's a genuine image and an "AI" fake, both signed. Seriously how do you think an authority is going to resolve that?
- jfyi 2mo agoHow do you think it's an issue with what I've explained already? You are just repeating yourself now. Let's see if you can even explain what I am telling you. What would be the first step to resolve this issue in the system I am proposing?