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I wonder what the uncomfortable truths that everyone is ignoring are in today's programming world?

by aeflash 14y ago

jrockway 14y ago
PHP.
- randallsquared 14y ago
  Is there some uncomfortable truth about PHP that's not being shouted from the rooftops in every thread about PHP? If so, what is it?
  - chromatic 14y ago
    Perhaps "Nothing else solves the deployment problem as well as PHP did." (No, not even "git push to deploy".)
- chimeracoder 14y ago
  Nah, that's the one that's popular ("pleasant") to recognize. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd imagine Dijkstra would have a word or two to say about callbacks, given his famously strong beliefs about GOTOs....
jlouis 14y ago
HTML .. when PostScript was way better. The many years spent with C and C++ when there are better alternatives around. Microsoft Windows, OSX, Linux when Plan9 exists. OOP. NoSQL and its total misunderstanding of the power of having a declarative query language. Cache coherency, ordering guarantees, where we should opt for less.
- deleted 14y ago
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- readme 14y ago
  I think you confused 'truth' with 'things jlouis likes better than others' --- to be fair, djikstra seemed to suffer from the same distortion.
- arethuza 14y ago
  Out of interest, have you written much interactive PostScript?
  - tluyben2 14y ago
    No, but they could've extended that instead of creating a new monster?
    - rfurmani 14y ago
      I've done a fair bit of development inside Postscript (way back when it was one of my favorite languages) and its problem in this context is that it /is/ a programming language, and one that would have to be effectively sandboxed. HTML on the other hand is purely a markup language, is extensible, can be reflowed, and is much more natural for writing documents by hand.
dinkumthinkum 14y ago
That keeping "up to date" on programming is not reading the latest blog posts on updates to Backbone.js, or learning yet another Web based *MVC or ANTI-MVC framework.
jfasi 14y ago
Not sure if this is strictly programming-related, but: Eschewing traditional career-track employment in favor of joining a startup can be damaging, and frequently does not break even with respect to the amount of money and influence you would gain working in a more traditional position.
wglb 14y ago
Perl.

I wonder what the uncomfortable truths that everyone is ignoring are in today's programming world?

by aeflash 14y ago

I wonder what the uncomfortable truths that everyone is ignoring are in today's programming world?

jrockway 14y ago

PHP.

randallsquared 14y ago
Is there some uncomfortable truth about PHP that's not being shouted from the rooftops in every thread about PHP? If so, what is it?
- chromatic 14y ago
  Perhaps "Nothing else solves the deployment problem as well as PHP did." (No, not even "git push to deploy".)
chimeracoder 14y ago
Nah, that's the one that's popular ("pleasant") to recognize. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd imagine Dijkstra would have a word or two to say about callbacks, given his famously strong beliefs about GOTOs....

jlouis 14y ago

HTML .. when PostScript was way better. The many years spent with C and C++ when there are better alternatives around. Microsoft Windows, OSX, Linux when Plan9 exists. OOP. NoSQL and its total misunderstanding of the power of having a declarative query language. Cache coherency, ordering guarantees, where we should opt for less.

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readme 14y ago
I think you confused 'truth' with 'things jlouis likes better than others' --- to be fair, djikstra seemed to suffer from the same distortion.
arethuza 14y ago
Out of interest, have you written much interactive PostScript?
- tluyben2 14y ago
  No, but they could've extended that instead of creating a new monster?
  - rfurmani 14y ago
    I've done a fair bit of development inside Postscript (way back when it was one of my favorite languages) and its problem in this context is that it /is/ a programming language, and one that would have to be effectively sandboxed. HTML on the other hand is purely a markup language, is extensible, can be reflowed, and is much more natural for writing documents by hand.

dinkumthinkum 14y ago

That keeping "up to date" on programming is not reading the latest blog posts on updates to Backbone.js, or learning yet another Web based *MVC or ANTI-MVC framework.

jfasi 14y ago

Not sure if this is strictly programming-related, but: Eschewing traditional career-track employment in favor of joining a startup can be damaging, and frequently does not break even with respect to the amount of money and influence you would gain working in a more traditional position.

wglb 14y ago

Perl.