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Funnily this whole example illustrates what everyone on the outside of the LLM psychosis train is saying. The user without empathy has managed to save 30 minut

Funnily this whole example illustrates what everyone on the outside of the LLM psychosis train is saying. The user without empathy has managed to save 30 minutes on a task they could have done themselves anyway. The only cost was wasting the time of at least 39 other people. It’s gross.

GPerson 2mo ago
That’s how I feel about AI people taking over the arts and fields like mathematics. For most of them it’s just a neat trick, and maybe there’s some business in there (the OpenAI tik tok clone as an extreme example), but for a huge portion of the world AI doing this work represents the end* of one of the best parts of life. I can’t help but view the AI researchers and promoters as callously stomping all over human culture and patting themselves on the back (also stuffing their pockets with the loot) for doing so. *Or at least a serious philosophical adjustment, and not all artists want to draw without even being seen.. Not all mathematicians are playing some abstractly analogous version of chess. Not every way of human existence that has been forgotten is 100% regressive and bad.
r3trohack3r 2mo ago
> The user without empathy has managed to save 30 minutes on a task One supplier ended up with a direct sale they wouldn’t have otherwise
- rootusrootus 2mo ago
  And if all of their customers start doing this, then they're going to need to jack up prices to cover all of their costs dealing with the deluge.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    They'll probably just generate the quotes with AI, which is fair.
- sebastiennight 2mo ago
  IIUC, so far the supplier has only ended up needing to send samples and a quote to a prospect, and no sale has actually happened. So as of today, everyone is showing a net negative result except whichever company sells the Grok bot tokens. If that company is subsidizing the price of the bot with VC money and not turning a profit, then as of today, 40 suppliers, 1 HN member, all Grok/SpaceX investors, all Nasdaq index investors, and probably some others, are showing a net negative, and the only company showing a positive result from all this is NVidia.
  - simgt 2mo ago
    > the only company showing a positive result from all this is NVidia Everyone upstream of the AI labs should be showing a positive result, that includes all the companies needed to actually build the chips and the datacenters around it. If they aren't too incompetent, they should end up with a pile of cash regardless of where their stock goes when the bubble pops.
- taneq 2mo ago
  Normally you’d get 2-3 quotes, meaning suppliers would on average get a sale for every few RFQs they respond to. Now guys like this twiddle one knob and generate 20x as much RFQ spam, costing suppliers 20x as much. It’s tantamount to a DoS attack.

GPerson 2mo ago

That’s how I feel about AI people taking over the arts and fields like mathematics. For most of them it’s just a neat trick, and maybe there’s some business in there (the OpenAI tik tok clone as an extreme example), but for a huge portion of the world AI doing this work represents the end* of one of the best parts of life. I can’t help but view the AI researchers and promoters as callously stomping all over human culture and patting themselves on the back (also stuffing their pockets with the loot) for doing so. *Or at least a serious philosophical adjustment, and not all artists want to draw without even being seen.. Not all mathematicians are playing some abstractly analogous version of chess. Not every way of human existence that has been forgotten is 100% regressive and bad.

r3trohack3r 2mo ago

> The user without empathy has managed to save 30 minutes on a task One supplier ended up with a direct sale they wouldn’t have otherwise

rootusrootus 2mo ago
And if all of their customers start doing this, then they're going to need to jack up prices to cover all of their costs dealing with the deluge.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  They'll probably just generate the quotes with AI, which is fair.
sebastiennight 2mo ago
IIUC, so far the supplier has only ended up needing to send samples and a quote to a prospect, and no sale has actually happened. So as of today, everyone is showing a net negative result except whichever company sells the Grok bot tokens. If that company is subsidizing the price of the bot with VC money and not turning a profit, then as of today, 40 suppliers, 1 HN member, all Grok/SpaceX investors, all Nasdaq index investors, and probably some others, are showing a net negative, and the only company showing a positive result from all this is NVidia.
- simgt 2mo ago
  > the only company showing a positive result from all this is NVidia Everyone upstream of the AI labs should be showing a positive result, that includes all the companies needed to actually build the chips and the datacenters around it. If they aren't too incompetent, they should end up with a pile of cash regardless of where their stock goes when the bubble pops.
taneq 2mo ago
Normally you’d get 2-3 quotes, meaning suppliers would on average get a sale for every few RFQs they respond to. Now guys like this twiddle one knob and generate 20x as much RFQ spam, costing suppliers 20x as much. It’s tantamount to a DoS attack.