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Not strictly how it is. Here's what I saw: They were preparing the specifications before the government action. I worked for an organisation which was working w
by meaty 14y ago
Not strictly how it is. Here's what I saw: They were preparing the specifications before the government action. I worked for an organisation which was working with them at the time and they were pushing drafts of their documentation to us - the same ones you see on the Open Specification Promise.
To be honest, the government action halted this process because they had to get a shit load of legal people involved.
I think Microsoft has two camps inside. Those who really are technology focused and the marketing and management team. The latter are the ones doing all the damage. The technology people I genuinely feel sorry for.
- yuhong 14y agoWell, I think they first tried charging royalties before finally disclosing the docs and a patent list to Samba on royalty-free conditions. See this: http://www.samba.org/samba/PFIF/PFIF_history.html http://www.samba.org/samba/PFIF/PFIF_history.html http://www.samba.org/samba/PFIF/PFIF_agreement.html http://www.samba.org/samba/PFIF/PFIF_agreement.html
- meaty 14y agoThey did for some things. There are several factions inside Microsoft, some more respectable than others [1]. We managed to get MSRPC/DCOM documentation out of them no problems at all. TBH there was very little internal documentation on it apparently, most of it being inside 4-5 peoples' heads. [1] Small note to IE team: fuck you. I opened a genuine defect with steps to reproduce on Connect 19 months ago which was a regression between IE8 and IE9 and it was canned earlier today with the old bug vs feature thing. This is after 6 months of arguing with PAID UP GOLD PARTNER support over the issue as well which fucked up any IE upgrade plans for our clients for 6 months.
- yuhong 14y agoTo be honest, MSRPC and DCOM was based on DCE RPC and MS donated DCOM to the Open Group. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDCE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDCE
- lukeh 14y agoThe Open Group's DCOM implementation wasn't open source. Also, MSRPC/DCOM is just an RPC layer, the real value/lock-in was in the protocols built on top of them, such as Active Directory. dcerpc.org has a maintained version of the OSF DCE RPC runtime (this bounced around from the FreeDCE project, to PADL, then Novell, Likewise and now Apple).
- yuhong 14y ago"I think Microsoft has two camps inside. Those who really are technology focused and the marketing and management team. The latter are the ones doing all the damage. The technology people I genuinely feel sorry for." Reminds me of this: http://www.os2museum.com/wp/?p=1329&cpage=1#comment-11713 http://www.os2museum.com/wp/?p=1329&cpage=1#comment-1171... The referenced PX00307 refers to this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3441885 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3441885