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The UK banned him from practicing because of it, citing "serious professional misconduct". He moved to the US. America made one of his adherents the Secretary

The UK banned him from practicing because of it, citing "serious professional misconduct". He moved to the US. America made one of his adherents the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

lenerdenator 2mo ago
Oh, banned him? Don't move too quickly, you might get dizzy. Wakefield arguably assaulted his patients (most of whom were children, IIRC) when conducting his research. What do you do with people who arguably assaulted someone? You get the Crown to make that argument. Why didn't that happen? Also worth noting: according to the logic upon which the British system of government is based, no lesser a party than God Himself put a major believer in homeopathy on the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
- ceejayoz 2mo ago
  https://x.com/raffysoanti/status/1403093629086965760 https://x.com/raffysoanti/status/1403093629086965760 I'd love to see Wakefield go to jail for fraud, nor am I a fan of Charles even if he's on my passport. But Charles doesn't set UK health policy, or UK policy at all.
  - lenerdenator 2mo ago
    > I'd love to see Wakefield go to jail for fraud, nor am I a fan of Charles even if he's on my passport. But Charles doesn't set UK health policy, or UK policy at all. You're correct. He lives off the civil list and lets his nonce brother crash at a luxury home. But someone else does set UK health policy, and someone else does prosecute crimes, and since that's the case, then why didn't someone else in the UK with the ability to charge him do so? If that happens, there is no adherent in charge of the DHHS. There are no kids dying of easily-preventable diseases in the UK, US, or anywhere else. Just a quack sitting in a jail cell.
    - ceejayoz 2mo ago
      Again: I'm all for it. I've little ability to impact the British criminal justice system, though, nor much patience for whataboutism. I'll still take "no longer a doctor" over "gets to set American health policy". I like pancakes and waffles, in other words.
      - lenerdenator 2mo ago
        > I've little ability to impact the British criminal justice system, though Probably more on a per-capita basis than Americans have impact on what DHHS does, though. Especially if it became something focused on by the British public. Which, strangely, it hasn't. Not since 2010 when he was struck off. > I'll still take "no longer a doctor" over "gets to set American health policy". You really should aim higher. The man performed colonoscopies and biopsies on autistic children to support a scientific fraud with the hopes of becoming wealthy off of it. In other words, at the very least, he committed battery on disabled kids. That should earn more than getting struck off after twelve years. It should earn prison. It's purely on the British government that it hasn't. And since doing that would have prevented his scientific fraud from reaching the heights it is at now, modern antivax can be pinned on the UK and the lack of action from His Majesty's government.
        ceejayoz 2mo ago
        > You really should aim higher. Reminder: This thread started when you set the bar for America incredibly low; "well we didn't start it!". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49261093 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49261093 I would suggest you take your own advice instead of dismissing very valid criticism as "narrative".

The UK banned him from practicing because of it, citing "serious professional misconduct". He moved to the US. America made one of his adherents the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

lenerdenator 2mo ago

Oh, banned him? Don't move too quickly, you might get dizzy. Wakefield arguably assaulted his patients (most of whom were children, IIRC) when conducting his research. What do you do with people who arguably assaulted someone? You get the Crown to make that argument. Why didn't that happen? Also worth noting: according to the logic upon which the British system of government is based, no lesser a party than God Himself put a major believer in homeopathy on the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

ceejayoz 2mo ago
https://x.com/raffysoanti/status/1403093629086965760 https://x.com/raffysoanti/status/1403093629086965760 I'd love to see Wakefield go to jail for fraud, nor am I a fan of Charles even if he's on my passport. But Charles doesn't set UK health policy, or UK policy at all.
- lenerdenator 2mo ago
  > I'd love to see Wakefield go to jail for fraud, nor am I a fan of Charles even if he's on my passport. But Charles doesn't set UK health policy, or UK policy at all. You're correct. He lives off the civil list and lets his nonce brother crash at a luxury home. But someone else does set UK health policy, and someone else does prosecute crimes, and since that's the case, then why didn't someone else in the UK with the ability to charge him do so? If that happens, there is no adherent in charge of the DHHS. There are no kids dying of easily-preventable diseases in the UK, US, or anywhere else. Just a quack sitting in a jail cell.
  - ceejayoz 2mo ago
    Again: I'm all for it. I've little ability to impact the British criminal justice system, though, nor much patience for whataboutism. I'll still take "no longer a doctor" over "gets to set American health policy". I like pancakes and waffles, in other words.
    - lenerdenator 2mo ago
      > I've little ability to impact the British criminal justice system, though Probably more on a per-capita basis than Americans have impact on what DHHS does, though. Especially if it became something focused on by the British public. Which, strangely, it hasn't. Not since 2010 when he was struck off. > I'll still take "no longer a doctor" over "gets to set American health policy". You really should aim higher. The man performed colonoscopies and biopsies on autistic children to support a scientific fraud with the hopes of becoming wealthy off of it. In other words, at the very least, he committed battery on disabled kids. That should earn more than getting struck off after twelve years. It should earn prison. It's purely on the British government that it hasn't. And since doing that would have prevented his scientific fraud from reaching the heights it is at now, modern antivax can be pinned on the UK and the lack of action from His Majesty's government.
      - ceejayoz 2mo ago
        > You really should aim higher. Reminder: This thread started when you set the bar for America incredibly low; "well we didn't start it!". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49261093 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49261093 I would suggest you take your own advice instead of dismissing very valid criticism as "narrative".