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I've never worked at a company with an "ethics" employee. It seems odd. Can someone explain what the point is? > She has held a variety of academic positions a

I've never worked at a company with an "ethics" employee. It seems odd. Can someone explain what the point is? > She has held a variety of academic positions at Temple University, Princeton, and the University of Pennsylvania – where she completed her PhD in Political Science and Government. Her Dissertation was titled “Small Talk: The Socialities of Speech in Liberal Democratic Life.” This doesn't even feel relevant to ethics. It's adjacent, but like... I guess I'd expect a moral philosophy degree? Maybe even mathematics in there? I find the position odd. Curious to hear what these people do and how you choose who to hire.

tonetheman 2mo ago
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georgemcbay 2mo ago
> I've never worked at a company with an "ethics" employee. It seems odd. Can someone explain what the point is? An ethics department is like a human resources department, but for broader ethics related matters. HR: Ostensibly exists to support the employees, but really exists to shield the company from both a PR and legal liability standpoint when the company has a rift with one or more employees. Ethics Department: Ostensibly exists to make sure the company acts ethically, but really exists to shield the company from both a PR and legal liability standpoint when the company acts unethically. It is a good personal signal that you have never worked for a company with an ethics department or an ethics employee. The less ethical your company the more likely it is to have an ethics department.
- dickiedyce 2mo ago
  I’ve always thought of both as the departmental equivalent of “cleanup crew to aisle nine“
tollenda 2mo ago
Bakalar got in on the ground floor of AI ethics by starting to talk and think about it in academic settings as a side-interest in the late 2010s. When the sector took off like a rocket in early 2023 after ChatGPT, it was these already-engaged people (regardless of degree field or technical skill) who had the personal and professional connections to get hired and promoted rapidly into lucrative "ethicist" positions at AI companies. A lot of them were poli-sci/public policy types, rather than philosophers or computer scientists.

tonetheman 2mo ago

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georgemcbay 2mo ago

> I've never worked at a company with an "ethics" employee. It seems odd. Can someone explain what the point is? An ethics department is like a human resources department, but for broader ethics related matters. HR: Ostensibly exists to support the employees, but really exists to shield the company from both a PR and legal liability standpoint when the company has a rift with one or more employees. Ethics Department: Ostensibly exists to make sure the company acts ethically, but really exists to shield the company from both a PR and legal liability standpoint when the company acts unethically. It is a good personal signal that you have never worked for a company with an ethics department or an ethics employee. The less ethical your company the more likely it is to have an ethics department.

dickiedyce 2mo ago
I’ve always thought of both as the departmental equivalent of “cleanup crew to aisle nine“

tollenda 2mo ago

Bakalar got in on the ground floor of AI ethics by starting to talk and think about it in academic settings as a side-interest in the late 2010s. When the sector took off like a rocket in early 2023 after ChatGPT, it was these already-engaged people (regardless of degree field or technical skill) who had the personal and professional connections to get hired and promoted rapidly into lucrative "ethicist" positions at AI companies. A lot of them were poli-sci/public policy types, rather than philosophers or computer scientists.