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One issue that I have with many of these videos - what precisely is "this"? What issue is being addressed and what changes are proposed? It's entirely issue-ad

One issue that I have with many of these videos - what precisely is "this"? What issue is being addressed and what changes are proposed? It's entirely issue-adjacent slogans of "Amazon cheats, we will hurt them". And if I've learned anything from the most recent executive branch campaigns/elections, it's that vaguely defined "we'll get them" will get you elected but won't promise any meaningful changes other than power for the elected.

runako 2mo ago
The bill[1], which is named in the video, is available on the public Internet. 1 - https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7879110&GUID=BDDD32F1-1178-492D-80F2-205845356FD2 https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7...
- jvanderbot 2mo ago
  Fair enough! I watched the video again and still dont understand what the problem is or what's being solved, but yes - there's the act! It connects the dots through - Amazon seems to be claiming their drivers are exempt from something due to being contractors, and this bill will enforce those undefined somethings to be enforced. > This bill would require operators of certain warehouses and storage facilities from which goods are delivered to final consumers in the City to obtain a business license from the Department of Consumer and Worker Protection. This bill would set forth the conditions of such license, which would include safety, training and employment requirements. This bill would also set forth enforcement options, including those available to the City and to workers. The bill text itself seems to be more about hiring / firing practices than trucks.
  - pseudalopex 2mo ago
    The video identified injuries and accidents were problems and said Amazon claimed Amazon were exempt from liability. Not drivers were exempt from undefined somethings. Notice of termination was the 1 bill section not connected clearly to a problem in the video. The Delivery worker record-keeping and safety obligations and Worker training sections were about injuries and accidents clearly. The Direct employment section would prevent to transfer liability to contractors.
rauljara 2mo ago
I don’t think this video is about hurting anybody. It’s about making sure that large companies can be held liable if they hurt somebody. This is about protecting people.
ncallaway 2mo ago
This video isn’t an attempt to get elected, since he’s six months into a term. It’s an attempt to build political support for passing a specific piece of legislation. It’s not “vaguely defined”, it refers to a specific bill that he wants to pass that has legislative text available on the internet.
bryanlarsen 2mo ago
This is a concrete bill. It's the opponents that are going to need the catchy slogan to successfully defeat it. Or bribes.

runako 2mo ago

The bill[1], which is named in the video, is available on the public Internet. 1 - https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7879110&GUID=BDDD32F1-1178-492D-80F2-205845356FD2 https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7...

jvanderbot 2mo ago
Fair enough! I watched the video again and still dont understand what the problem is or what's being solved, but yes - there's the act! It connects the dots through - Amazon seems to be claiming their drivers are exempt from something due to being contractors, and this bill will enforce those undefined somethings to be enforced. > This bill would require operators of certain warehouses and storage facilities from which goods are delivered to final consumers in the City to obtain a business license from the Department of Consumer and Worker Protection. This bill would set forth the conditions of such license, which would include safety, training and employment requirements. This bill would also set forth enforcement options, including those available to the City and to workers. The bill text itself seems to be more about hiring / firing practices than trucks.
- pseudalopex 2mo ago
  The video identified injuries and accidents were problems and said Amazon claimed Amazon were exempt from liability. Not drivers were exempt from undefined somethings. Notice of termination was the 1 bill section not connected clearly to a problem in the video. The Delivery worker record-keeping and safety obligations and Worker training sections were about injuries and accidents clearly. The Direct employment section would prevent to transfer liability to contractors.

rauljara 2mo ago

I don’t think this video is about hurting anybody. It’s about making sure that large companies can be held liable if they hurt somebody. This is about protecting people.

ncallaway 2mo ago

This video isn’t an attempt to get elected, since he’s six months into a term. It’s an attempt to build political support for passing a specific piece of legislation. It’s not “vaguely defined”, it refers to a specific bill that he wants to pass that has legislative text available on the internet.

bryanlarsen 2mo ago

This is a concrete bill. It's the opponents that are going to need the catchy slogan to successfully defeat it. Or bribes.