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I'm surprised this isn't an impeachable offence.

by tho23u434079 2mo ago

zparky 2mo ago
not like that impacts anything anymore, apparently.
dole 2mo ago
I remember when we gave a shit about "emoluments."
spiderfarmer 2mo ago
It is. The US is over.
goatlover 2mo ago
The Republicans still control Congress at least until the new Congress is seated in January. At which point the House may impeach Trump for one of many crimes. But it's unlikely the Senate will have enough votes to convict, even if Democrats also take it back.
pjc50 2mo ago
Impeachment requires a Democrat majority. (for some reason this attracted a downvote? Obviously Republicans are never going to impeach a Republican President? I cannot imagine why you would think they would?)
- techlover14159 2mo ago
  Impeachment doesn't accomplish much anyway. Conviction in the senate requires 75% votes and that is not happening even if this admin starts concentration camps for opposition.
usefulcat 2mo ago
The US political system is now so deeply divided along partisan lines that it's increasingly difficult to imagine what "an impeachable offense" would look like. Impeachment requires that many members of Congress are willing to go against a President of their own party, and that doesn't really happen any more, at least not at the scale needed for impeachment. The founders seem to have imagined that Congress (as a whole) would have an adversarial relationship with the President. But they failed to foresee the levels of partisanship we have today which have resulted in ~half of Congress being very closely allied with the President. When the US was less divided, things like ethics or morals or even just not openly breaking the law mattered a lot more. Now, people (at least, the people who vote the most) care more about "is my party in power", and either don't know about or disregard everything else. I include "don't know" because if all you listen to is Fox news and social networks feeding you ideas that you already agree with then you can easily be completely unaware of things like this.
Micrococonut 2mo ago
Republicans don't even try to put on an appearance of lawfulness anymore. Their supporters revel in the criminality. They worship it.
ceejayoz 2mo ago
Of course it's an impeachable offense. We see several new ones every week. There's just no one with the power plus willingness to do so.

I'm surprised this isn't an impeachable offence.

zparky 2mo ago

not like that impacts anything anymore, apparently.

dole 2mo ago

I remember when we gave a shit about "emoluments."

spiderfarmer 2mo ago

It is. The US is over.

goatlover 2mo ago

The Republicans still control Congress at least until the new Congress is seated in January. At which point the House may impeach Trump for one of many crimes. But it's unlikely the Senate will have enough votes to convict, even if Democrats also take it back.

pjc50 2mo ago

Impeachment requires a Democrat majority. (for some reason this attracted a downvote? Obviously Republicans are never going to impeach a Republican President? I cannot imagine why you would think they would?)

techlover14159 2mo ago
Impeachment doesn't accomplish much anyway. Conviction in the senate requires 75% votes and that is not happening even if this admin starts concentration camps for opposition.

usefulcat 2mo ago

The US political system is now so deeply divided along partisan lines that it's increasingly difficult to imagine what "an impeachable offense" would look like. Impeachment requires that many members of Congress are willing to go against a President of their own party, and that doesn't really happen any more, at least not at the scale needed for impeachment. The founders seem to have imagined that Congress (as a whole) would have an adversarial relationship with the President. But they failed to foresee the levels of partisanship we have today which have resulted in ~half of Congress being very closely allied with the President. When the US was less divided, things like ethics or morals or even just not openly breaking the law mattered a lot more. Now, people (at least, the people who vote the most) care more about "is my party in power", and either don't know about or disregard everything else. I include "don't know" because if all you listen to is Fox news and social networks feeding you ideas that you already agree with then you can easily be completely unaware of things like this.

Micrococonut 2mo ago

Republicans don't even try to put on an appearance of lawfulness anymore. Their supporters revel in the criminality. They worship it.

ceejayoz 2mo ago

Of course it's an impeachable offense. We see several new ones every week. There's just no one with the power plus willingness to do so.