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This. The UK "wrongthink arrests" were for stuff like calling for a building full of people to be burned down. While the US arrests you for criticising the poli

by inigyou 3mo ago

This. The UK "wrongthink arrests" were for stuff like calling for a building full of people to be burned down. While the US arrests you for criticising the police chief.

hdgvhicv 3mo ago
The US rate people for quoting a murder victim and not having the right level of performative grief not seen since Eva Peron died.
like_any_other 3mo ago
The UK arrests were also for stickers with: slogans such as “Reject white guilt”, “Nationalism is nurture”, “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066” and “Diversity – designed to fail, built to replace” - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/16/uk-man-with-hitler-picture-used-sticker-campaign-to-stir-racial-hatred-court-told https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/16/uk-man-with-... "Stirring up racial hatred", even merely possessing material that could do so, is a crime in the UK: https://www.thelawpages.com/criminal-offence/Possessing-racially-inflammatory-material/-for-display/publication/distribution-with-intent/likely-to-stir-up-racial-hatred-496-9.law https://www.thelawpages.com/criminal-offence/Possessing-raci... Burning the Koran is also illegal: https://spectator.com/article/england-now-has-a-blasphemy-law/ https://spectator.com/article/england-now-has-a-blasphemy-la... Viewing "far-right propaganda" carries a 15 year jail sentence: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-viewers-of-online-terrorist-material-face-15-years-in-jail https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-v... True factual statements such as "young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs" come with a nearly 1-year jail term: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce328p9330eo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce328p9330eo Note that most of the time, articles are happy to omit actual quotes, instead parroting the prosecution's description of the speech in question, using vague terms such as "racially aggravated comments" or "inciting racial hatred": https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rq8r4jdgno https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rq8r4jdgno https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68086012 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68086012 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68074858 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68074858
- inigyou 3mo ago
  ok good. Except for the viewing thing. That one is crazy. Most of what you described is just disinformation though and I'm fine with the UK taking a different approach than the US.
  - Fidelix 3mo ago
    That's fine, then there is no need to lie like you did.
  - like_any_other 3mo ago
    > Most of what you described is just disinformation though “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066” is accurate: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-britons-could-be-minority-by-2066-2137329.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-briton... Burning the Koran is not a statement of fact, so it cannot be disinformation. "young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs" is also accurate (though the precise number is contentious, mostly because the police turned a blind eye, or even actively aided the gangs): https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/britains-grooming-gang-scandal-report-claims-250000-victims-1803240 https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/britains-grooming-gang-scandal-rep... So can you be more specific in what you were referring to as being "disinformation"?
    - selimthegrim 3mo ago
      Why is it we never hear about the Muslim prosecutor who put them away?
    - 52-6F-62 3mo ago
      lol, this is odd. British =/= Briton And English most certainly =/= Briton. No more than English == Iroquois
      - suslik 3mo ago
        I see this a lot, but it depends on how you define these terms. If person A defines British such as British = Briton, you categorically claiming that British =/= Briton is not really an argument, just a statement of belief. An argument would be why you think your definition is better, more correct, etc.
023847292847 3mo ago
What do you get out of your lies?

by inigyou 3mo ago

This. The UK "wrongthink arrests" were for stuff like calling for a building full of people to be burned down. While the US arrests you for criticising the police chief.

hdgvhicv 3mo ago

The US rate people for quoting a murder victim and not having the right level of performative grief not seen since Eva Peron died.

like_any_other 3mo ago

The UK arrests were also for stickers with: slogans such as “Reject white guilt”, “Nationalism is nurture”, “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066” and “Diversity – designed to fail, built to replace” - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/16/uk-man-with-hitler-picture-used-sticker-campaign-to-stir-racial-hatred-court-told https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/16/uk-man-with-... "Stirring up racial hatred", even merely possessing material that could do so, is a crime in the UK: https://www.thelawpages.com/criminal-offence/Possessing-racially-inflammatory-material/-for-display/publication/distribution-with-intent/likely-to-stir-up-racial-hatred-496-9.law https://www.thelawpages.com/criminal-offence/Possessing-raci... Burning the Koran is also illegal: https://spectator.com/article/england-now-has-a-blasphemy-law/ https://spectator.com/article/england-now-has-a-blasphemy-la... Viewing "far-right propaganda" carries a 15 year jail sentence: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-viewers-of-online-terrorist-material-face-15-years-in-jail https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-v... True factual statements such as "young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs" come with a nearly 1-year jail term: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce328p9330eo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce328p9330eo Note that most of the time, articles are happy to omit actual quotes, instead parroting the prosecution's description of the speech in question, using vague terms such as "racially aggravated comments" or "inciting racial hatred": https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rq8r4jdgno https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rq8r4jdgno https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68086012 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68086012 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68074858 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68074858

inigyou 3mo ago
ok good. Except for the viewing thing. That one is crazy. Most of what you described is just disinformation though and I'm fine with the UK taking a different approach than the US.
- Fidelix 3mo ago
  That's fine, then there is no need to lie like you did.
- like_any_other 3mo ago
  > Most of what you described is just disinformation though “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066” is accurate: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-britons-could-be-minority-by-2066-2137329.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-briton... Burning the Koran is not a statement of fact, so it cannot be disinformation. "young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs" is also accurate (though the precise number is contentious, mostly because the police turned a blind eye, or even actively aided the gangs): https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/britains-grooming-gang-scandal-report-claims-250000-victims-1803240 https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/britains-grooming-gang-scandal-rep... So can you be more specific in what you were referring to as being "disinformation"?
  - selimthegrim 3mo ago
    Why is it we never hear about the Muslim prosecutor who put them away?
  - 52-6F-62 3mo ago
    lol, this is odd. British =/= Briton And English most certainly =/= Briton. No more than English == Iroquois
    - suslik 3mo ago
      I see this a lot, but it depends on how you define these terms. If person A defines British such as British = Briton, you categorically claiming that British =/= Briton is not really an argument, just a statement of belief. An argument would be why you think your definition is better, more correct, etc.

023847292847 3mo ago

What do you get out of your lies?