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> No "just" scared to open my mouth or defend myself or family with the little to none legal weaponary Bitch please. Firstly the _victim_ was foreign not the a

> No "just" scared to open my mouth or defend myself or family with the little to none legal weaponary Bitch please. Firstly the _victim_ was foreign not the attacker. second, you are well within your rights to use reasonable force. Sometimes that involves chasing an attacker down the street with a cricket bat and beating the shit out of someone. > foreign attackers imported against our will which are excluded from such laws. mate, thats not way to talk about the scottish (they too are allowed to carry knives as part of thier national costume) but if you lived here, you'd probably know that.

akimbostrawman 2mo ago
>Bitch please I could literally be arrested for what I said, can you claim the same in the US? >chasing an attacker down the street with a cricket bat and beating the shit out of someone. Someone literally got arrested for buying a baseball bat couple days ago... >thats not way to talk about the scottish Somehow they aren't included in the law exclusion or are part of the group doing disproportionate amounts of stabbings (or rape), curious.
- foldr 2mo ago
  Yes, the same can happen in the US. In general, no country has successfully constructed a magical force field that prevents its police officers from ever arresting people for stupid reasons. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/31/tennessee-man-jailed-charlie-kirk-meme https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/31/tennessee-ma...
  - akimbostrawman 2mo ago
    Charges (rightfully) dropped and not prosecuted because of the first amendment, which does not exist in the UK or the EU. "Hate" Speech laws are a blanked go to jail card. Anything interpreted as "grossly offensive" by anybody will result in arrests AND prosecutions.
    - foldr 2mo ago
      Most of the online outrage has been about arrests for social media posts, and it’s arrests that you refer to in your comment. When it comes to prosecutions for hate speech, it would be difficult to make the case that the UK is an outlier. There are many other European and non-European countries that have stricter laws in that regard. If your point is just that most of the world, unlike the US, doesn’t consider hate speech to be protected speech, then indeed, that’s true. But there is no reason to single out the UK to make that point. If you want to feel even more outraged, have a look at the list I compiled here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48691436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48691436
    - KaiserPro 2mo ago
      > "Hate" Speech laws are a blanked go to jail card You're confusing communications act with hate speech, which are different. Also the EU is civil code, which does law _very differently_ Also can you point to someone who has been jailed for hate speech? as in it was the only charge, rather than an aggravating factor? (Ie tommy robininson hasn't been convicted for it, ever. and you'd think he'd be the one given that he's organising marches saying lets kill brown people. )
- KaiserPro 2mo ago
  > I could literally be arrested for what I said for what you said? no. for what you write? very unlikley. >Someone literally got arrested for buying a baseball bat couple days ago... I see you follow Tommy robinson. Right so the point here is, if that person is wrongly arrested (which looks likely) they are in line for a tidy sum. However if they have a court order from not buying (an aluminium) baseball bat then they wont. The crucial point here is, arresting is just that, unless they have committed a crime nothing else happens. apart from the embarrassment. Its not like they would have been shot, or kneeled on until you stop breathing. > Somehow they aren't included in the law exclusion or are part of the group doing disproportionate amounts of stabbings (or rape), curious. The fuck they aren't https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/26/section/4 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/26/section/4 Explicitly has a carveout for wearing skirts without undies and a big fucking knife in their socks. Wait are you confusing sikhs with the bradford grooimg gang? dude they are different religions, Race and live in different places. Harry's case is really unusual. but whats not unusual is that everyone involved got jail time, even the offender's mum, cause if you lie to cover up for your son, you're gonna get jail time. > part of the group doing disproportionate amounts of stabbings I mean the scots have problems we know this, but a lot of it stems from drug use. Oh you mean sikhs again. Right. Look its really not like it says on twitter. Its sunny today, and I strolled though south london to work, I wasn't stabbed once for being "white". I can wear any national costume and carry a knife or sword. or for work.

akimbostrawman 2mo ago

>Bitch please I could literally be arrested for what I said, can you claim the same in the US? >chasing an attacker down the street with a cricket bat and beating the shit out of someone. Someone literally got arrested for buying a baseball bat couple days ago... >thats not way to talk about the scottish Somehow they aren't included in the law exclusion or are part of the group doing disproportionate amounts of stabbings (or rape), curious.

foldr 2mo ago
Yes, the same can happen in the US. In general, no country has successfully constructed a magical force field that prevents its police officers from ever arresting people for stupid reasons. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/31/tennessee-man-jailed-charlie-kirk-meme https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/31/tennessee-ma...
- akimbostrawman 2mo ago
  Charges (rightfully) dropped and not prosecuted because of the first amendment, which does not exist in the UK or the EU. "Hate" Speech laws are a blanked go to jail card. Anything interpreted as "grossly offensive" by anybody will result in arrests AND prosecutions.
  - foldr 2mo ago
    Most of the online outrage has been about arrests for social media posts, and it’s arrests that you refer to in your comment. When it comes to prosecutions for hate speech, it would be difficult to make the case that the UK is an outlier. There are many other European and non-European countries that have stricter laws in that regard. If your point is just that most of the world, unlike the US, doesn’t consider hate speech to be protected speech, then indeed, that’s true. But there is no reason to single out the UK to make that point. If you want to feel even more outraged, have a look at the list I compiled here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48691436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48691436
  - KaiserPro 2mo ago
    > "Hate" Speech laws are a blanked go to jail card You're confusing communications act with hate speech, which are different. Also the EU is civil code, which does law _very differently_ Also can you point to someone who has been jailed for hate speech? as in it was the only charge, rather than an aggravating factor? (Ie tommy robininson hasn't been convicted for it, ever. and you'd think he'd be the one given that he's organising marches saying lets kill brown people. )
KaiserPro 2mo ago
> I could literally be arrested for what I said for what you said? no. for what you write? very unlikley. >Someone literally got arrested for buying a baseball bat couple days ago... I see you follow Tommy robinson. Right so the point here is, if that person is wrongly arrested (which looks likely) they are in line for a tidy sum. However if they have a court order from not buying (an aluminium) baseball bat then they wont. The crucial point here is, arresting is just that, unless they have committed a crime nothing else happens. apart from the embarrassment. Its not like they would have been shot, or kneeled on until you stop breathing. > Somehow they aren't included in the law exclusion or are part of the group doing disproportionate amounts of stabbings (or rape), curious. The fuck they aren't https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/26/section/4 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/26/section/4 Explicitly has a carveout for wearing skirts without undies and a big fucking knife in their socks. Wait are you confusing sikhs with the bradford grooimg gang? dude they are different religions, Race and live in different places. Harry's case is really unusual. but whats not unusual is that everyone involved got jail time, even the offender's mum, cause if you lie to cover up for your son, you're gonna get jail time. > part of the group doing disproportionate amounts of stabbings I mean the scots have problems we know this, but a lot of it stems from drug use. Oh you mean sikhs again. Right. Look its really not like it says on twitter. Its sunny today, and I strolled though south london to work, I wasn't stabbed once for being "white". I can wear any national costume and carry a knife or sword. or for work.