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Brazil was so right. We're just an inference away from being jailed. I'm not from UK but it shows how we are all helpless and see in plain conciousness what is
by bobim 2mo ago
Brazil was so right. We're just an inference away from being jailed. I'm not from UK but it shows how we are all helpless and see in plain conciousness what is coming. When did we lost the grip?
- doublerabbit 2mo agoThe 1960's was about the time in history when investment went in to surveillance programs. Computer recognition has been around for a very long time, and has always been on the edge for spying on citizens. It's accelerated now because we have future technology that they didn't have back then.
- bobim 2mo agoBut stemming from which need? Cold war?
- doublerabbit 2mo agoThere's never just one. Mainly political. Those who in power of the state don't want to loose power. A protest, revolt is the best way to overthrow that. So to eliminate that threat is to survey. Install fear and you have control. > The idea that emerged around the time of the French Revolution that the political spectrum can be divided into a right- and left wing in the first place – it becomes clear that the Left, in its essence, is a critique of bureaucracy, even if it’s one that has, again and again, been forced to accommodate itself in practice to the very bureaucratic structures and mindset it originally arose to oppose. [1] [1] Computers and Surveillance Scandals in the 1960s-70s - https://sciencespo.hal.science/hal-03952774v1/document https://sciencespo.hal.science/hal-03952774v1/document
- hamper653 2mo agoClass war.
- coldtea 2mo agoNote to readers: Brazil the Terry Gilliam Kafkaesque movie, not the country.
- bobim 2mo agoThanks, in my view this is a masterpiece, but it might not be obvious to everyone. That you got the reference makes my day.
- Nursie 2mo agoBrazil was also right about the levels of competence within the bureaucracy.
- bobim 2mo agoNeed to rewatch with the kids
- tim333 2mo agoUnlike Brazil the movie it's quite hard to actually end up in jail in the UK. The courts lean more towards letting criminals walk.
- lowbloodsugar 2mo agoYou’ve been drinking the propaganda again. Most cases don’t make it to court. The courts lean towards trusting the police. The police lean towards perjury.
- tim333 2mo agoDunno. I've lived in England sixty years and don't know anyone who went to jail apart from one who was the getaway driver for a robbery. I know a few who have done crimes but gotten away with it. Do you live there and know anyone unfairly banged up? Not sure which propaganda I should have seen? I see a lot of MAGA types who haven't been here determined to make out it's some sort of hell hole. I was chatting to friends last week and one of the has a friend who knows a friendly drug addict who nicks meat to order - they say what they want and he goes to Tesco and walks out with it. That's the more common problem - under enforcement rather than overdoing it.
- lowbloodsugar 2mo agoGood friend is a criminal defense barrister in London. You can have non enforcement and stitch-ups in the same system. On the one hand, they just don’t care about regular policing. On the other, if you cross their path, or you “fit the description”, they’ll do anything, including perjury, to convict. They aren’t here to protect you or your property. They are here to protect the system.