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That's why you don't share them, until comes a time when the ideabringers gets the money and recognition they deserve. Until then, good luck going knee deep in

That's why you don't share them, until comes a time when the ideabringers gets the money and recognition they deserve. Until then, good luck going knee deep in the sewers of ideas.

keiferski 2mo ago
Can’t say I agree. The most influential ideas in history were not conceived of by people looking for money and recognition. Nor were they “radically original.”
- lofaszvanitt 2mo ago
  Which were? Look at AI. AI companies throw out their models and let the "community" develop the ideas what to do with them. They don't really know what they are capable of. All they do is implement these things that the dev community digs up and creates. It's a reprehensible tactic. So why give drops of blood to a desert, when there is zero incentive and in the end you will revitalise the desert, but it will turn against you and rob you of your job.
  - keiferski 2mo ago
    I think we are talking past each other. I was referring to ideas as in philosophy, intellectual history, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_history https://www.amazon.com/1001-Ideas-That-Changed-Think/dp/1476705720 https://www.amazon.com/1001-Ideas-That-Changed-Think/dp/1476... The notion that a philosopher would hoard his ideas because he wants to get money from them is pretty much antithetical to the field. You seem to be referring to ideas as in, ideas about how AI systems should be designed. Different scenarios, for sure.
    - lofaszvanitt 2mo ago
      Idea as a foundation of something. No idea no product.
- intended 2mo ago
  The entire edifice of intellectual property would like to interject and say hi. Patents, copyrights, trade marks exist because rewarding people for their insights and inventions matters.
  - gosub100 2mo ago
    I was with you until 'people'. I think you meant billion dollar corporations.
    - intended 2mo ago
      Hah, too True. Unfortunately larger firms have the ability to leverage the systems better than individuals at this point. still, at least the existence of IP laws indicates that there is a need to reward creators for their creations.

That's why you don't share them, until comes a time when the ideabringers gets the money and recognition they deserve. Until then, good luck going knee deep in the sewers of ideas.

keiferski 2mo ago

Can’t say I agree. The most influential ideas in history were not conceived of by people looking for money and recognition. Nor were they “radically original.”

lofaszvanitt 2mo ago
Which were? Look at AI. AI companies throw out their models and let the "community" develop the ideas what to do with them. They don't really know what they are capable of. All they do is implement these things that the dev community digs up and creates. It's a reprehensible tactic. So why give drops of blood to a desert, when there is zero incentive and in the end you will revitalise the desert, but it will turn against you and rob you of your job.
- keiferski 2mo ago
  I think we are talking past each other. I was referring to ideas as in philosophy, intellectual history, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_history https://www.amazon.com/1001-Ideas-That-Changed-Think/dp/1476705720 https://www.amazon.com/1001-Ideas-That-Changed-Think/dp/1476... The notion that a philosopher would hoard his ideas because he wants to get money from them is pretty much antithetical to the field. You seem to be referring to ideas as in, ideas about how AI systems should be designed. Different scenarios, for sure.
  - lofaszvanitt 2mo ago
    Idea as a foundation of something. No idea no product.
intended 2mo ago
The entire edifice of intellectual property would like to interject and say hi. Patents, copyrights, trade marks exist because rewarding people for their insights and inventions matters.
- gosub100 2mo ago
  I was with you until 'people'. I think you meant billion dollar corporations.
  - intended 2mo ago
    Hah, too True. Unfortunately larger firms have the ability to leverage the systems better than individuals at this point. still, at least the existence of IP laws indicates that there is a need to reward creators for their creations.