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I've tried this before and it was an incredibly profound experience. Happy to answer questions if folks have any.

Aboutplants 2mo ago
Were there long term positive (or negative for that matter) after effects that persisted either for some time or set a new baseline for you?
- tristanMatthias 2mo ago
  Yeah see my comment above. Life felt like I was in a dream state after. Still does if I drop back into that place and let go of the narratives of modern life. It really gives me a new perspective on "maya" as the hindus refer to it as. The "veil of illusion" that we find ourselves in. Not at all to say that I'm disengaged or disconnected. I still live a full and happy life. But I don't take it seriously anymore. I'm reminded of Oscar Wilde's quote > Life is too important to be taken seriously.
ceroxylon 2mo ago
Have you compared it to the synthetic 5-MeO-DMT experience and if so, is there a noticeable difference in your experience?
- sitzkrieg 2mo ago
  i have been fortunate enough to, identical experience
- tristanMatthias 2mo ago
  I have not but I would be very curious to see if there is any!
Rzor 2mo ago
Have you ever tried mushrooms? If so, can you compare the experiences?
- virtualwhys 2mo ago
  One is eternity compressed into five minutes; the other is relatively mild even at higher doses in comparison (though of course a powerful experience in its own right). Suspect that for many 5-MEO is something you do once in a lifetime. It's not necessary to do it on a regular basis, and you'll know why after you try it for the first time :)
  - tristanMatthias 2mo ago
    Very well put. No intention of dipping back in again. As Alan Watts put, "These things are like a telephone conversation with god. Once you get the message, hang up the phone and don't pick it up again"
- tristanMatthias 2mo ago
  Yes plenty. A comparison might be (for me at least) mushrooms is akin to going to an art gallery, and 5-meo is like going very deep (instantly) into a sensory-deprivation flotation tank. An art gallery in the sense that there's a lot going on, there's a lot to interpret and you're very aware of the things that are around you. Those things have a strong ability to move you, provide insight, "downloads", intepretations. It can also be (not necessarily) very social as well. It's not a perfect metaphor because it doesn't capture all the other ways mushrooms can influence you, but for the sake of this analogy haha. A flotation tank because… well for me everything ceased to exist. There was no time, no self, no light, no thought, no sensations. Nothing. Just an experience that merged with darkness and then there was simply just an awareness. I remember "being" in a place of complete darkness (darkness isn't even the right word because it's beyond the idea of darkness even existing). Beyond concepts and words and thoughts. And the darkness was truly "beautiful". It felt like it was silently humming, vibrating even. It felt primordial, as if it was pregnant with all possible creation. And yet utterly void. Truly a surreal experience and not at ALL the same thing!
eleveriven 2mo ago
Did it actually change anything for you long-term or was it mostly profound while it was happening?
- tristanMatthias 2mo ago
  Yes it fundamentally changed the way I see and show up in the world. The best way I could describe it is a sense of deep peace knowing that this is all a lovely dream, and that one day "I" will return to the source.

Were there long term positive (or negative for that matter) after effects that persisted either for some time or set a new baseline for you?

tristanMatthias 2mo ago
Yeah see my comment above. Life felt like I was in a dream state after. Still does if I drop back into that place and let go of the narratives of modern life. It really gives me a new perspective on "maya" as the hindus refer to it as. The "veil of illusion" that we find ourselves in. Not at all to say that I'm disengaged or disconnected. I still live a full and happy life. But I don't take it seriously anymore. I'm reminded of Oscar Wilde's quote > Life is too important to be taken seriously.

ceroxylon 2mo ago

Have you compared it to the synthetic 5-MeO-DMT experience and if so, is there a noticeable difference in your experience?

sitzkrieg 2mo ago
i have been fortunate enough to, identical experience
tristanMatthias 2mo ago
I have not but I would be very curious to see if there is any!

Rzor 2mo ago

Have you ever tried mushrooms? If so, can you compare the experiences?

virtualwhys 2mo ago
One is eternity compressed into five minutes; the other is relatively mild even at higher doses in comparison (though of course a powerful experience in its own right). Suspect that for many 5-MEO is something you do once in a lifetime. It's not necessary to do it on a regular basis, and you'll know why after you try it for the first time :)
- tristanMatthias 2mo ago
  Very well put. No intention of dipping back in again. As Alan Watts put, "These things are like a telephone conversation with god. Once you get the message, hang up the phone and don't pick it up again"
tristanMatthias 2mo ago
Yes plenty. A comparison might be (for me at least) mushrooms is akin to going to an art gallery, and 5-meo is like going very deep (instantly) into a sensory-deprivation flotation tank. An art gallery in the sense that there's a lot going on, there's a lot to interpret and you're very aware of the things that are around you. Those things have a strong ability to move you, provide insight, "downloads", intepretations. It can also be (not necessarily) very social as well. It's not a perfect metaphor because it doesn't capture all the other ways mushrooms can influence you, but for the sake of this analogy haha. A flotation tank because… well for me everything ceased to exist. There was no time, no self, no light, no thought, no sensations. Nothing. Just an experience that merged with darkness and then there was simply just an awareness. I remember "being" in a place of complete darkness (darkness isn't even the right word because it's beyond the idea of darkness even existing). Beyond concepts and words and thoughts. And the darkness was truly "beautiful". It felt like it was silently humming, vibrating even. It felt primordial, as if it was pregnant with all possible creation. And yet utterly void. Truly a surreal experience and not at ALL the same thing!

eleveriven 2mo ago

Did it actually change anything for you long-term or was it mostly profound while it was happening?

tristanMatthias 2mo ago
Yes it fundamentally changed the way I see and show up in the world. The best way I could describe it is a sense of deep peace knowing that this is all a lovely dream, and that one day "I" will return to the source.