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that is the start of a lot of bills like this... they really only ever increase in scope and invasiveness.

bryanlarsen 2mo ago
On the contrary in my experience once a legislature passes a bill to "fix" a particular problem they consider it fixed and don't update it for at least 20 years.
- paimapi 2mo ago
  it depends on whether or not there's someone who sees it as a crusade (rare), sees it as a way to get political clout (very common) and/or is getting a lot of lobbying money (extremely common [1]). see, for eg, the anti-trans bills that are being passed this is the same rhetorical and political strategy, that there are 'dangerous' people who will exploit your children so please vote for me, the person who cares the most about children and will go after the 'dangerous' people [1] https://themarkup.org/privacy/2021/04/15/big-tech-is-pushing-states-to-pass-privacy-laws-and-yes-you-should-be-suspicious https://themarkup.org/privacy/2021/04/15/big-tech-is-pushing...
  - frumplestlatz 2mo ago
    What is the connection to “anti-trans bills”?
    - paimapi 2mo ago
      they're both grounded in fearmongering that's led to cultural panics and utilize the rhetoric of 'protecting children' as the sell https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2023/12/How-to-Win-the-War-on-100-Fronts-Siena-Hohne.pdf https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/wp-content/upl... "Overwhelmingly, state legislators behind recent anti-trans legislation have argued that they were introducing these bills with the intent to protect children – whether that be “protecting children” from “profoundly unethical and morally wrong” medical practices" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/eff-gov-pritzker-veto-illinois-hb-5511 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/eff-gov-pritzker-veto-... "Much of H.B. 5511 is modeled after controversial legislation passed in California (A.B. 1043) and New York’s Stop Addictive Feeds Exploitation (SAFE) for Kids Act" there's also the rampant astroturfing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/30/christian-hate-group-funding-us-anti-lgbtq-anti-abortion-organizations https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/30/christian-hate... "The surge in funding to the ADF, which has been termed an “anti-LGBTQ hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, saw it record revenue of $104.5m in 2021, according to filings with the Internal Revenue Service." ADF's main funders being the Servant Foundation or a single billionaire family's pet foundation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_Foundation) and the National Christian Foundation which receives large donations from multiple extremely wealthy individuals like David Green, co-founder of Hobby Lobby (https://readsludge.com/2019/03/19/americas-biggest-christian-charity-funnels-tens-of-millions-to-hate-groups/ https://readsludge.com/2019/03/19/americas-biggest-christian...) this is very much like the funding of these 'privacy' acts by Meta, Alphabet, etc - lots of money directly into the hands of local legislators across multiple state legislatures with the ultimate goal of providing institutional power over individuals, one just has a slightly more Machiavellian economic logic foregrounding it but the strategy, tactics, and overall erosion of civil liberties make for very similar outcomes
- buran77 2mo ago
  Unless there is a big lobby behind getting more "fixes".
  - an0malous 2mo ago
    Who's the lobby?
- weaksauce 2mo ago
  i mean with the rise of flock ad campaigns of "think of the children" and them installing platereaders all over the place this kind of thing is something that people want to capitalize on and make a buck. i can definitely see the lobbying pushing for more and more invasive versions of this.

On the contrary in my experience once a legislature passes a bill to "fix" a particular problem they consider it fixed and don't update it for at least 20 years.

paimapi 2mo ago
it depends on whether or not there's someone who sees it as a crusade (rare), sees it as a way to get political clout (very common) and/or is getting a lot of lobbying money (extremely common [1]). see, for eg, the anti-trans bills that are being passed this is the same rhetorical and political strategy, that there are 'dangerous' people who will exploit your children so please vote for me, the person who cares the most about children and will go after the 'dangerous' people [1] https://themarkup.org/privacy/2021/04/15/big-tech-is-pushing-states-to-pass-privacy-laws-and-yes-you-should-be-suspicious https://themarkup.org/privacy/2021/04/15/big-tech-is-pushing...
- frumplestlatz 2mo ago
  What is the connection to “anti-trans bills”?
  - paimapi 2mo ago
    they're both grounded in fearmongering that's led to cultural panics and utilize the rhetoric of 'protecting children' as the sell https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2023/12/How-to-Win-the-War-on-100-Fronts-Siena-Hohne.pdf https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/wp-content/upl... "Overwhelmingly, state legislators behind recent anti-trans legislation have argued that they were introducing these bills with the intent to protect children – whether that be “protecting children” from “profoundly unethical and morally wrong” medical practices" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/eff-gov-pritzker-veto-illinois-hb-5511 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/eff-gov-pritzker-veto-... "Much of H.B. 5511 is modeled after controversial legislation passed in California (A.B. 1043) and New York’s Stop Addictive Feeds Exploitation (SAFE) for Kids Act" there's also the rampant astroturfing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/30/christian-hate-group-funding-us-anti-lgbtq-anti-abortion-organizations https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/30/christian-hate... "The surge in funding to the ADF, which has been termed an “anti-LGBTQ hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, saw it record revenue of $104.5m in 2021, according to filings with the Internal Revenue Service." ADF's main funders being the Servant Foundation or a single billionaire family's pet foundation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_Foundation) and the National Christian Foundation which receives large donations from multiple extremely wealthy individuals like David Green, co-founder of Hobby Lobby (https://readsludge.com/2019/03/19/americas-biggest-christian-charity-funnels-tens-of-millions-to-hate-groups/ https://readsludge.com/2019/03/19/americas-biggest-christian...) this is very much like the funding of these 'privacy' acts by Meta, Alphabet, etc - lots of money directly into the hands of local legislators across multiple state legislatures with the ultimate goal of providing institutional power over individuals, one just has a slightly more Machiavellian economic logic foregrounding it but the strategy, tactics, and overall erosion of civil liberties make for very similar outcomes
buran77 2mo ago
Unless there is a big lobby behind getting more "fixes".
- an0malous 2mo ago
  Who's the lobby?
weaksauce 2mo ago
i mean with the rise of flock ad campaigns of "think of the children" and them installing platereaders all over the place this kind of thing is something that people want to capitalize on and make a buck. i can definitely see the lobbying pushing for more and more invasive versions of this.