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Protect Your Relays

49 points by surprisetalk 2mo ago

myshapeprotocol 2mo ago
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- varun_ch 2mo ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=myshapeprotocol https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=myshapeprotocol
- AgharaShyam 2mo ago
  stop spamming!!
- inigyou 2mo ago
  This account looks like an AI summary karma-farming bot, and yet, with so many flagged comments, it hasn't been punished.
  - junon 2mo ago
    <Summary>. <Short interjection>. That's their whole schitck. If you're going to dilute the community with AI slop at least make it interesting.
    - andai 2mo ago
      Careful what you wish for! https://xkcd.com/810/ https://xkcd.com/810/
Surac 2mo ago
Lol i expected a text about protecting relays from mechanical or electric problems. You know those real mechanical relays we used to build computers of some years ago
- deleted 2mo ago
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- matja 2mo ago
  Same, having worked on firmware that controlled relays (and NAND chips) and managed to burn them both out surprisingly quickly due to software bugs :p
- oniony 2mo ago
  I've got an electrical garage door opener, came with the house. We've been here 16 years and the relay has always been sticky: I have to bash the unit with a broom for it to work. One day I'll replace that damn relay.
- MisterTea 2mo ago
  > You know those real mechanical relays we used to build computers of some years ago Or found in just about every home appliance where mains voltage is switched by a CPU.
Retr0id 2mo ago
> A leaked token enables connections, but not impersonations. The token is addressed to one specific endpoint's public key So now the problem is moved to "how do you decide who to issue tokens to?", which every project must solve individually. It might sound like I'm being dismissive here but I think that's exactly the right approach.
hncsiocp9x 2mo ago
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pineapplepizza6 2mo ago
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mudkipdev 2mo ago
Does this mean the official relay now requires an account to use?
- karissa 2mo ago
  No, the public relays are free forever, they are just rate limited. That hasn’t changed!
hn58622tsf 2mo ago
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skybrian 2mo ago
I suppose many apps need to phone home, but I wonder about the loss of control if a lot of apps and devices start embedding this. Tailscale seems better for controlling my own network?
bobbylarson 2mo ago
The thing that surprised me running relays for robot fleets: relay was not the fallback, it was the common case. Hole punching fails a lot behind enterprise NAT.
FLeXMurphy 2mo ago
bro just use a flyback diode
EtienneDeLyon 2mo ago
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Protect Your Relays

49 points by surprisetalk 2mo ago

myshapeprotocol 2mo ago

[flagged]

varun_ch 2mo ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=myshapeprotocol https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=myshapeprotocol
AgharaShyam 2mo ago
stop spamming!!
inigyou 2mo ago
This account looks like an AI summary karma-farming bot, and yet, with so many flagged comments, it hasn't been punished.
- junon 2mo ago
  <Summary>. <Short interjection>. That's their whole schitck. If you're going to dilute the community with AI slop at least make it interesting.
  - andai 2mo ago
    Careful what you wish for! https://xkcd.com/810/ https://xkcd.com/810/

Surac 2mo ago

Lol i expected a text about protecting relays from mechanical or electric problems. You know those real mechanical relays we used to build computers of some years ago

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matja 2mo ago
Same, having worked on firmware that controlled relays (and NAND chips) and managed to burn them both out surprisingly quickly due to software bugs :p
oniony 2mo ago
I've got an electrical garage door opener, came with the house. We've been here 16 years and the relay has always been sticky: I have to bash the unit with a broom for it to work. One day I'll replace that damn relay.
MisterTea 2mo ago
> You know those real mechanical relays we used to build computers of some years ago Or found in just about every home appliance where mains voltage is switched by a CPU.

Retr0id 2mo ago

> A leaked token enables connections, but not impersonations. The token is addressed to one specific endpoint's public key So now the problem is moved to "how do you decide who to issue tokens to?", which every project must solve individually. It might sound like I'm being dismissive here but I think that's exactly the right approach.

hncsiocp9x 2mo ago

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pineapplepizza6 2mo ago

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mudkipdev 2mo ago

Does this mean the official relay now requires an account to use?

karissa 2mo ago
No, the public relays are free forever, they are just rate limited. That hasn’t changed!

hn58622tsf 2mo ago

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skybrian 2mo ago

I suppose many apps need to phone home, but I wonder about the loss of control if a lot of apps and devices start embedding this. Tailscale seems better for controlling my own network?

bobbylarson 2mo ago

The thing that surprised me running relays for robot fleets: relay was not the fallback, it was the common case. Hole punching fails a lot behind enterprise NAT.

FLeXMurphy 2mo ago

bro just use a flyback diode

EtienneDeLyon 2mo ago

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