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I don’t think he actually lost the practice room. The person speaking was not the owner.

serf 2mo ago
At the very least it's a cliff hanger. If the authority figure has the balls to say 'fine, I'll get your contract terminated' I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that was exactly the outcome.
- jstummbillig 2mo ago
  You should probably be a bit more surprised. There is a class of people (specially) in business, who threaten a lot habitually and don't act on it, if you call the bluff. The reason is that a lot of people do cave. "Free" wins. If it does not work, they just pretend nothing happened.
  - SoftTalker 2mo ago
    They also threaten things that they have no real power or authority to actually do, because they are used to people just rolling over and letting them get their way.
    - serf 2mo ago
      Well you don't actually know that from the story. Being in the same yacht club as the owner of the building conveys these kind of powers - it's like no one has encountered preferential treatment, good or bad, before.
      - SoftTalker 2mo ago
        Agree, I was speaking more generally about the type of person who is just bossy because they usually get away with it.
  - serf 2mo ago
    If a professional group of people are wasting their time and attention on you then it's fruitful to imagine what resources they may have to leverage against you, I don't think that's hard to argue. Few people cave when there are lots of eyes on them., and less people make empty threats with a bar full of spectators - that's why punches get thrown. Regardless : 'I'm a renter' is by no means a strong argument unless you have a very specifically worded renter agreement -- it's pretty obviously a bad idea to anger the crowd of presumably better paying tenants, what would you do as a land owner, kick out the group every other tenant hates or change policy to protect the small fry?
    - jstummbillig 2mo ago
      > what would you do as a land owner Nothing. You would do nothing. You want both to stay, because you also don't enjoy losing any amount of money, and not doing anything is most likely going to get you that. From the "I'll get you thrown out"-party, it's the same tactic again, directed at the landlord this time. Moving buildings is neither fun nor cheap. Your employees would have to go somewhere else, there might not be anywhere else close by that is convenient to you or as nice/familiar as the place you got, some people might quit over any annoyance this brings too. Nobody enjoys this shit. There are contracts. There are lawyers. It's never fun to do these things and it can all be dragged out for a long time. Being a somewhat bigger renter is (fortunately) not something that helps you in a court of law. > Regardless : 'I'm a renter' is by no means a strong argument unless you have a very specifically worded renter agreement It's a very strong default argument, unless you have a specifically worded agreement, that would strip you of a potential right.
  - Aachen 2mo ago
    'expecting it to happen' != 'not being surprised by it'. Indeed, I'd also expect that the person is bluffing about that ability, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they did manage
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serf 2mo ago

At the very least it's a cliff hanger. If the authority figure has the balls to say 'fine, I'll get your contract terminated' I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that was exactly the outcome.

jstummbillig 2mo ago
You should probably be a bit more surprised. There is a class of people (specially) in business, who threaten a lot habitually and don't act on it, if you call the bluff. The reason is that a lot of people do cave. "Free" wins. If it does not work, they just pretend nothing happened.
- SoftTalker 2mo ago
  They also threaten things that they have no real power or authority to actually do, because they are used to people just rolling over and letting them get their way.
  - serf 2mo ago
    Well you don't actually know that from the story. Being in the same yacht club as the owner of the building conveys these kind of powers - it's like no one has encountered preferential treatment, good or bad, before.
    - SoftTalker 2mo ago
      Agree, I was speaking more generally about the type of person who is just bossy because they usually get away with it.
- serf 2mo ago
  If a professional group of people are wasting their time and attention on you then it's fruitful to imagine what resources they may have to leverage against you, I don't think that's hard to argue. Few people cave when there are lots of eyes on them., and less people make empty threats with a bar full of spectators - that's why punches get thrown. Regardless : 'I'm a renter' is by no means a strong argument unless you have a very specifically worded renter agreement -- it's pretty obviously a bad idea to anger the crowd of presumably better paying tenants, what would you do as a land owner, kick out the group every other tenant hates or change policy to protect the small fry?
  - jstummbillig 2mo ago
    > what would you do as a land owner Nothing. You would do nothing. You want both to stay, because you also don't enjoy losing any amount of money, and not doing anything is most likely going to get you that. From the "I'll get you thrown out"-party, it's the same tactic again, directed at the landlord this time. Moving buildings is neither fun nor cheap. Your employees would have to go somewhere else, there might not be anywhere else close by that is convenient to you or as nice/familiar as the place you got, some people might quit over any annoyance this brings too. Nobody enjoys this shit. There are contracts. There are lawyers. It's never fun to do these things and it can all be dragged out for a long time. Being a somewhat bigger renter is (fortunately) not something that helps you in a court of law. > Regardless : 'I'm a renter' is by no means a strong argument unless you have a very specifically worded renter agreement It's a very strong default argument, unless you have a specifically worded agreement, that would strip you of a potential right.
- Aachen 2mo ago
  'expecting it to happen' != 'not being surprised by it'. Indeed, I'd also expect that the person is bluffing about that ability, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they did manage

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