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Easy workaround for this: 1. Install uBlock Origin in Edge. 2. Start Edge, browse to MSN Weather. 3. Click the "Add an Application" button in the address bar

Easy workaround for this: 1. Install uBlock Origin in Edge. 2. Start Edge, browse to MSN Weather. 3. Click the "Add an Application" button in the address bar to get a Start Menu icon for the page. 4. Delete the in-box Weather app icon. Now you get the same Weather app in about 130MB of RAM, with no ads. It's not as nice as a native app, of course, but it's 1000% better than the useless ads and MSN feed that you can't block from the built-in Weather icon. (Also, go into Widget settings and turn off "Discover / Microsoft Start feed". Same crap, different surface. Get rid of it.)

aniceperson 2mo ago
1. install ublock origin on Firefox. not even being annoying, edge is removing manifest v2 very soon, breaking proper ad blocks just like chrome
- rstat1 2mo ago
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  - Catloafdev 2mo ago
    This is a narrative that MS, Google etc want you to believe. They gutted it for ads. That's what's happening. There are workarounds now, that's what the existing ad block options are. They are heavily kneecapped.
    - rstat1 2mo ago
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      - Catloafdev 2mo ago
        No, but you failed to comprehend the section of my comment where I mentioned "workarounds [...] are what the existing ad blockers now use"
    - Plont 2mo ago
      Plus, those workarounds will only continue to work (in as much as they currently do) for as long as Google suffers them to. Enshittification, as always, works in baby steps. uBlock lite is already ineffectual in comparison to uBlock Origin. I understand that it's nonetheless good enough for many people, but it will get worse from here.
  - s3p 2mo ago
    MV3 is severely limited in what it can do. One example that blew my mind is that chrome happily renders webpages immediately after application launch, while extensions are still loading. Firefox, in contrast, doesn't let the network request fire off to the page until every extension is ready. So chrome is essentially screwing over the user, letting ads/ blocked content load, and intentionally degrading their experience, to make things appear slightly faster.
    - taviso 2mo ago
      That's nothing to do with MV3 though, that was also true with MV2. The situation actually seems improved in MV3, because static (and dynamic, IIRC) DNR rules are initialized and enforced immediately, right?
    - charcircuit 2mo ago
      >MV3 is severely limited in what it can do. Yet, I never see ads since ad blockers still have enough power to block ads.
      - nophunphil 2mo ago
        “If I can’t see it, it must not be there”
        charcircuit 2mo ago
        That's the point of an adblocker. Web pages have ads, but with the extension they aren't there.
        sensanaty 2mo ago
        uBlock does a lot more than just block ads, is the thing, and that's what they killed with MV3. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
- jeroenhd 2mo ago
  Firefox doesn't support PWAs on desktop and removed their previous self-designed equivalent years ago. It's the reason Brave is still running in the background on my machines.
  - ta8903 2mo ago
    >Firefox doesn't support PWAs on desktop Are you sure? I still see the "add tab to taskbar" option in the address bar and clicking it open the tab in a new window and shows a popup to pin the tab to the taskbar.
    - jeroenhd 2mo ago
      Hmm, after looking around a bit, it looks like they added it (back) to Firefox for Windows, but not for other desktop platforms. Maybe one day.
fakwandi_priv 2mo ago
> According to Windows Latest, the high memory consumption is due to the fact that Weather is not a fully native Windows application. Instead, it is essentially an MSN Weather web app built on Microsoft's WebView2 framework. I wonder how this approach is having such an high reduction in memory usage compared to what’s stated in the article. I would assume both use the exact same WebView here. The only explanation here that I can think of would be that the “Add an application” starts it under an existing Edge process which shares it’s memory instead of completely isolated.
- Scharkenberg 2mo ago
  Yes, using an already-running Edge instance saves a bunch of memory. Also, this approach has the advantage of allowing all of your browser extensions to modify your Web-App experience. WebView2 doesn't relay Edge extensions.
- smileybarry 2mo ago
  WebView2 has some memory optimizations across several WebView2 instances, so it should save memory once you have multiple WebView2 apps running.
theropost 2mo ago
waiting for a quick simple straight forward tool on github that takes care of this... Anyone?
- pamcake 2mo ago
  https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases or https://unetbootin.github.io/#distros https://unetbootin.github.io/#distros
dualvariable 2mo ago
The weather app isn't a native app either: > According to Windows Latest, the high memory consumption is due to the fact that Weather is not a fully native Windows application. Instead, it is essentially an MSN Weather web app built on Microsoft's WebView2 framework. Task Manager shows multiple Chromium-based subprocesses running simultaneously, which contributes to the unusually high RAM usage. If you have Edge or Chrome open (or anything else that similarly uses Chromium) then the incremental increase in RAM usage from the Weather app is likely much smaller than the headline 1GB.
- anonymars 2mo ago
  Shared memory is a separate column, so no
dimgl 2mo ago
> Easy workaround for this Wipe Windows from your machine. Use Arch Linux. Problem solved.
- deathanatos 2mo ago
  I too want to shout how it's the Year of the Linux Desktop but I've been fighting mate-clock-applet recently. It has a memory leak, somewhere, and it slowly consumes RAM. Normally though it's ~65 MiB for both clock & weather. Also mate-screenshot is leaking RAM/processes. About ~40 MiB leaked per screenshot. These things do tend to get fixed over time, though.
  - dimgl 2mo ago
    Been using Gnome on Arch, it's been unbelievably stable
- ProllyInfamous 2mo ago
  The most-difficult part of installing any Linux distro is getting the motivation to create the boot media. Luckily for Ubuntu (I'm running v26) you can use an old HD or USB and then [your flavor of LLM] to then walk you through the steps on how to make the media bootable (at least: that's what I did). I am a bluecollar electrician (yes, it took me a few tries; yes, I accidentally fucked up my first few OS's doing stupid not-recommended shit). ---- Highly recommend Ubuntu; I've dabbled in the past, but the fact that AMD and nVIDIA drivers are pre-installed, in a user-friendly GUI installer... is what has helped me make Linux my main desktop (over the past half-year). Bought a Microcenter prebuilt and never even booten Win11 (straight to Ubuntu installer). Over the past three decades, I have really tried to like several Linux'es, but have always reverted to (e.g:) Win7 or MacOS. Being able to run local LLM-models is what led me to Ubuntu (RX580->VEGA64->5070Ti)... it's been a journey =P
  - WelkinFolk 2mo ago
    Agree with this. As much as Ubuntu is derided for several reasons, it just works. I tinkered with different distros for years, and while it was super fun, I wasn't very productive. Ubuntu and Fedora are the only distros where stuff just worked for me.
gerdesj 2mo ago
"Now you get the same Weather app in about 130MB of RAM" What a wonderful world we have created where the fix for a 1GB RAM guzzler reduces it to a mere 130MB. Now I could start off with my old ZX80 or even my C64 (which is doing fine, thanks, and sports a USB "drive" next to its Quickshot II) but I think my first 80486 is a realistic comparison. That ran at 25MHz, had a maths co-pro in it had 4MB RAM, a 20MB IDE HDD and I think the Orchid graphics card had 0.5MB RAM. The monitor was of course a 14" CRT VGA. OK so late 1980s! However, that thing could run Win 3.1 and Word 2 and I think I managed to wedge a dodgy copy of Quark Express on it. I could play F117 and other games on it. Oh well, lets see what this Linux box has on it: /usr/bin/inxi - 1.4MB $ inxi -w Yeovil,UK Weather: Report: temperature: 16.05 C (61 F) conditions: scattered clouds Locale: Yeovil, UK current time: Mon 10 Aug 2026 01:16:05 BST Source: OpenWeatherMap.org Obviously, I could install a Flatpak to do that instead and waste far more resources 8)
- jeroenhd 2mo ago
  What inxi commnd shows a map of pollen concentration, weather alerts, and air quality? How do you generate a graph comparing this year's temperatures to the previous yeas' average climate? Comparing inxi to Windows Weather is like comparing vi to Autodesk. You can make 3d graphics for sure, but it's not exactly comparable. When I run inxi -w, I get this: Weather: Message: Error: Your access to this resource has been blocked. Automated requests or excessive use are not permitted. This is clearly stated in both the help menu and man page. If you want a CLI weather tool for routine use, try wttr.in, or use a weather widget. Remember, you never had a "right" to this feature, it was just a little easter egg, mostly for sys admins, which has instead been consistently abused. If you want to know your local weather, look out your window, there it is. Looks like something in my powerline config somewhere must be querying too much? I can't find anything on my systems, must be a very old misconfiguration on my end. I still think I prefer the Microsoft tool.
  - treszkai 2mo ago
    > Your access to this resource has been blocked. Do you have VPN enabled?
VCFundedGenYer 2mo ago
Reminder that all Chromium browsers are hostile to adblockers and are actively removing them. Use Firefox with uBlock Origin, do not use Chrome, Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.
- jaimex2 2mo ago
  Doesn't Brave have an inbuilt ad blocker?
  - EasyMark 2mo ago
    it does, and works almost as well as ublock for most things, but isn't nearly as flexible.
  - v17 2mo ago
    Brave has a workaround to make some v2 extensions work, including ublock origin
    - prplxd_nihilist 2mo ago
      He's talking about the built-in adblocker
christophilus 2mo ago
A better workaround is to install Linux. My entire operating system, which includes Niri window manager and Dank Linux running a weather app, among many other things takes less around 1 gig of ram.
- anonymars 2mo ago
  Yes, switching operating systems is a reasonable alternative to switching weather apps
welwala 2mo ago
Another easy workaround: 1. Install Linux with KDE 2. Turn on weather report widget 3. Enjoy :) PS: You've also solved the mandatory account requirement, adds all over the OS, "Copilot" everywhere, Edge constantly coming back and much more <3
- raxxorraxor 2mo ago
  For the Windows look and feel, I recommend Mint + Cinnamon. It took me about 15min to not miss anything on Windows and was shocked how I had forgotten how clean a system can be. Mandatory Windows accounts can still be circumvented with a console command for Win 11 installations, but the overall enshitification package just got worse and worse. Cinnamon is X11, but it works very well.
  - welwala 2mo ago
    Yeah I love KDE especially because it doesn't force a certain look and feel, it's super configurable out of the box and even more if you install themes and plugins (which I don't even do).
  - prplxd_nihilist 2mo ago
    > Mandatory Windows accounts can still be circumvented with a console command for Win 11 installations Heard that's patched too
    - raxxorraxor 2mo ago
      Did it the day before yesterday with a fresh win11 image from Microsoft (no rufus magic or anything). You can press shift + f10 and run a command I don't remember. It restarts the install process and lets you create a local account while it still patches the system before the first start (no fiddling with internet connections required). At least that still works. At least for an install in vbox under Mint :)
      - welwala 2mo ago
efreak 2mo ago
As much as I hate the weather app myself, this isn't an equivalent solution. The weather app shows the temperature in the taskbar itself, without opening anything. Also, I don't keep my browser open 24/7, so it's more than just loading a single extra tab, you need to wait for the browser process itself to start up. If you want to load weather in a browser from the taskbar instead of having it available without having to open another application, I'd recommend using dillo or some such to load wttr.in or similar. A single http request that loads fast from a comparatively simple application that also loads fast. You might even be able to load it as a .hta file.

aniceperson 2mo ago

1. install ublock origin on Firefox. not even being annoying, edge is removing manifest v2 very soon, breaking proper ad blocks just like chrome

rstat1 2mo ago
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- Catloafdev 2mo ago
  This is a narrative that MS, Google etc want you to believe. They gutted it for ads. That's what's happening. There are workarounds now, that's what the existing ad block options are. They are heavily kneecapped.
  - rstat1 2mo ago
    [flagged]
    - Catloafdev 2mo ago
      No, but you failed to comprehend the section of my comment where I mentioned "workarounds [...] are what the existing ad blockers now use"
  - Plont 2mo ago
    Plus, those workarounds will only continue to work (in as much as they currently do) for as long as Google suffers them to. Enshittification, as always, works in baby steps. uBlock lite is already ineffectual in comparison to uBlock Origin. I understand that it's nonetheless good enough for many people, but it will get worse from here.
- s3p 2mo ago
  MV3 is severely limited in what it can do. One example that blew my mind is that chrome happily renders webpages immediately after application launch, while extensions are still loading. Firefox, in contrast, doesn't let the network request fire off to the page until every extension is ready. So chrome is essentially screwing over the user, letting ads/ blocked content load, and intentionally degrading their experience, to make things appear slightly faster.
  - taviso 2mo ago
    That's nothing to do with MV3 though, that was also true with MV2. The situation actually seems improved in MV3, because static (and dynamic, IIRC) DNR rules are initialized and enforced immediately, right?
  - charcircuit 2mo ago
    >MV3 is severely limited in what it can do. Yet, I never see ads since ad blockers still have enough power to block ads.
    - nophunphil 2mo ago
      “If I can’t see it, it must not be there”
      - charcircuit 2mo ago
        That's the point of an adblocker. Web pages have ads, but with the extension they aren't there.
        sensanaty 2mo ago
        uBlock does a lot more than just block ads, is the thing, and that's what they killed with MV3. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
jeroenhd 2mo ago
Firefox doesn't support PWAs on desktop and removed their previous self-designed equivalent years ago. It's the reason Brave is still running in the background on my machines.
- ta8903 2mo ago
  >Firefox doesn't support PWAs on desktop Are you sure? I still see the "add tab to taskbar" option in the address bar and clicking it open the tab in a new window and shows a popup to pin the tab to the taskbar.
  - jeroenhd 2mo ago
    Hmm, after looking around a bit, it looks like they added it (back) to Firefox for Windows, but not for other desktop platforms. Maybe one day.

fakwandi_priv 2mo ago

> According to Windows Latest, the high memory consumption is due to the fact that Weather is not a fully native Windows application. Instead, it is essentially an MSN Weather web app built on Microsoft's WebView2 framework. I wonder how this approach is having such an high reduction in memory usage compared to what’s stated in the article. I would assume both use the exact same WebView here. The only explanation here that I can think of would be that the “Add an application” starts it under an existing Edge process which shares it’s memory instead of completely isolated.

Scharkenberg 2mo ago
Yes, using an already-running Edge instance saves a bunch of memory. Also, this approach has the advantage of allowing all of your browser extensions to modify your Web-App experience. WebView2 doesn't relay Edge extensions.
smileybarry 2mo ago
WebView2 has some memory optimizations across several WebView2 instances, so it should save memory once you have multiple WebView2 apps running.

theropost 2mo ago

waiting for a quick simple straight forward tool on github that takes care of this... Anyone?

pamcake 2mo ago
https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases or https://unetbootin.github.io/#distros https://unetbootin.github.io/#distros

dualvariable 2mo ago

The weather app isn't a native app either: > According to Windows Latest, the high memory consumption is due to the fact that Weather is not a fully native Windows application. Instead, it is essentially an MSN Weather web app built on Microsoft's WebView2 framework. Task Manager shows multiple Chromium-based subprocesses running simultaneously, which contributes to the unusually high RAM usage. If you have Edge or Chrome open (or anything else that similarly uses Chromium) then the incremental increase in RAM usage from the Weather app is likely much smaller than the headline 1GB.

anonymars 2mo ago
Shared memory is a separate column, so no

dimgl 2mo ago

> Easy workaround for this Wipe Windows from your machine. Use Arch Linux. Problem solved.

deathanatos 2mo ago
I too want to shout how it's the Year of the Linux Desktop but I've been fighting mate-clock-applet recently. It has a memory leak, somewhere, and it slowly consumes RAM. Normally though it's ~65 MiB for both clock & weather. Also mate-screenshot is leaking RAM/processes. About ~40 MiB leaked per screenshot. These things do tend to get fixed over time, though.
- dimgl 2mo ago
  Been using Gnome on Arch, it's been unbelievably stable
ProllyInfamous 2mo ago
The most-difficult part of installing any Linux distro is getting the motivation to create the boot media. Luckily for Ubuntu (I'm running v26) you can use an old HD or USB and then [your flavor of LLM] to then walk you through the steps on how to make the media bootable (at least: that's what I did). I am a bluecollar electrician (yes, it took me a few tries; yes, I accidentally fucked up my first few OS's doing stupid not-recommended shit). ---- Highly recommend Ubuntu; I've dabbled in the past, but the fact that AMD and nVIDIA drivers are pre-installed, in a user-friendly GUI installer... is what has helped me make Linux my main desktop (over the past half-year). Bought a Microcenter prebuilt and never even booten Win11 (straight to Ubuntu installer). Over the past three decades, I have really tried to like several Linux'es, but have always reverted to (e.g:) Win7 or MacOS. Being able to run local LLM-models is what led me to Ubuntu (RX580->VEGA64->5070Ti)... it's been a journey =P
- WelkinFolk 2mo ago
  Agree with this. As much as Ubuntu is derided for several reasons, it just works. I tinkered with different distros for years, and while it was super fun, I wasn't very productive. Ubuntu and Fedora are the only distros where stuff just worked for me.

gerdesj 2mo ago

"Now you get the same Weather app in about 130MB of RAM" What a wonderful world we have created where the fix for a 1GB RAM guzzler reduces it to a mere 130MB. Now I could start off with my old ZX80 or even my C64 (which is doing fine, thanks, and sports a USB "drive" next to its Quickshot II) but I think my first 80486 is a realistic comparison. That ran at 25MHz, had a maths co-pro in it had 4MB RAM, a 20MB IDE HDD and I think the Orchid graphics card had 0.5MB RAM. The monitor was of course a 14" CRT VGA. OK so late 1980s! However, that thing could run Win 3.1 and Word 2 and I think I managed to wedge a dodgy copy of Quark Express on it. I could play F117 and other games on it. Oh well, lets see what this Linux box has on it: /usr/bin/inxi - 1.4MB $ inxi -w Yeovil,UK Weather: Report: temperature: 16.05 C (61 F) conditions: scattered clouds Locale: Yeovil, UK current time: Mon 10 Aug 2026 01:16:05 BST Source: OpenWeatherMap.org Obviously, I could install a Flatpak to do that instead and waste far more resources 8)

jeroenhd 2mo ago
What inxi commnd shows a map of pollen concentration, weather alerts, and air quality? How do you generate a graph comparing this year's temperatures to the previous yeas' average climate? Comparing inxi to Windows Weather is like comparing vi to Autodesk. You can make 3d graphics for sure, but it's not exactly comparable. When I run inxi -w, I get this: Weather: Message: Error: Your access to this resource has been blocked. Automated requests or excessive use are not permitted. This is clearly stated in both the help menu and man page. If you want a CLI weather tool for routine use, try wttr.in, or use a weather widget. Remember, you never had a "right" to this feature, it was just a little easter egg, mostly for sys admins, which has instead been consistently abused. If you want to know your local weather, look out your window, there it is. Looks like something in my powerline config somewhere must be querying too much? I can't find anything on my systems, must be a very old misconfiguration on my end. I still think I prefer the Microsoft tool.
- treszkai 2mo ago
  > Your access to this resource has been blocked. Do you have VPN enabled?

VCFundedGenYer 2mo ago

Reminder that all Chromium browsers are hostile to adblockers and are actively removing them. Use Firefox with uBlock Origin, do not use Chrome, Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.

jaimex2 2mo ago
Doesn't Brave have an inbuilt ad blocker?
- EasyMark 2mo ago
  it does, and works almost as well as ublock for most things, but isn't nearly as flexible.
- v17 2mo ago
  Brave has a workaround to make some v2 extensions work, including ublock origin
  - prplxd_nihilist 2mo ago
    He's talking about the built-in adblocker

christophilus 2mo ago

A better workaround is to install Linux. My entire operating system, which includes Niri window manager and Dank Linux running a weather app, among many other things takes less around 1 gig of ram.

anonymars 2mo ago
Yes, switching operating systems is a reasonable alternative to switching weather apps

welwala 2mo ago

Another easy workaround: 1. Install Linux with KDE 2. Turn on weather report widget 3. Enjoy :) PS: You've also solved the mandatory account requirement, adds all over the OS, "Copilot" everywhere, Edge constantly coming back and much more <3

raxxorraxor 2mo ago
For the Windows look and feel, I recommend Mint + Cinnamon. It took me about 15min to not miss anything on Windows and was shocked how I had forgotten how clean a system can be. Mandatory Windows accounts can still be circumvented with a console command for Win 11 installations, but the overall enshitification package just got worse and worse. Cinnamon is X11, but it works very well.
- welwala 2mo ago
  Yeah I love KDE especially because it doesn't force a certain look and feel, it's super configurable out of the box and even more if you install themes and plugins (which I don't even do).
- prplxd_nihilist 2mo ago
  > Mandatory Windows accounts can still be circumvented with a console command for Win 11 installations Heard that's patched too
  - raxxorraxor 2mo ago
    Did it the day before yesterday with a fresh win11 image from Microsoft (no rufus magic or anything). You can press shift + f10 and run a command I don't remember. It restarts the install process and lets you create a local account while it still patches the system before the first start (no fiddling with internet connections required). At least that still works. At least for an install in vbox under Mint :)
    - welwala 2mo ago

efreak 2mo ago

As much as I hate the weather app myself, this isn't an equivalent solution. The weather app shows the temperature in the taskbar itself, without opening anything. Also, I don't keep my browser open 24/7, so it's more than just loading a single extra tab, you need to wait for the browser process itself to start up. If you want to load weather in a browser from the taskbar instead of having it available without having to open another application, I'd recommend using dillo or some such to load wttr.in or similar. A single http request that loads fast from a comparatively simple application that also loads fast. You might even be able to load it as a .hta file.