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Yeah, the big bad AI made you plagiarize a whole project down to the name, and lie to everyone about the review process. Not buying any of it.

glaslong 2mo ago
"The dog plagiarized my homework"
ceejayoz 2mo ago
> down to the name And an identical bug, per the Bluesky convo Gruber linked. https://bsky.app/profile/mmmeh.bsky.social/post/3mslc3b3u4c2l https://bsky.app/profile/mmmeh.bsky.social/post/3mslc3b3u4c2...
- lmc 2mo ago
  The 'original' app made heavy use of Claude also, according to its dev in that thread.
  - ceejayoz 2mo ago
    But that makes this even more likely to be a ripoff. Getting Claude to make the same exact mistake twice in non-deterministic manner takes real effort!
    - lmc 2mo ago
      Mmm it's still a toss up. Humans are also non-deterministic AF but I'm sure you're familiar with the 'common pitfalls' trope. The 'mea culpa' guy did mislead the Daring Fireball guy, indicating he is full of shit, but LLMs do have an established homogeneity about them.
K0balt 2mo ago
And it’s even more stupid because he just could have asked Claude to build it from scratch. I mean, it’s not Rocket science and all of the resources needed are in the public domain. It would be done in 3 days. 4 hours if you want to ship hot garbage.
- ChrisMarshallNY 2mo ago
  > 4 hours if you want to ship hot garbage. That seems to be the thing everyone is into, these days.
  - K0balt 2mo ago
    Yeah, hot garbage is trending these days, unfortunately.
CircuitSeuss 2mo ago
Why not? There have been quite a few copyright cases alleging this behavior that LLMs are not substantially transformative[1]. Note that cases have largely been ruled in the favor of the AI companies, with courts ruling that model output is “substantially transformative” of training material (although what is currently legally permissible may not be what we feel is socially permissible or ethical). The the fact that these allegations continue to be made, and the fact that AI companies seem to be trying to cover their asses by disallowing prompts which would be likely to create content highly similar to that of copyrighted training material [2] might be enough to at least warrant some consideration that Godier is being honest here. Not that this would absolve Godier (quite the opposite in my mind- low effort ai workflows produce slop, and he chose this intentionally), but perhaps some of the onerousness here also falls on the AI companies pillaging of work. [1] https://copyrightalliance.org/ai-copyright-lawsuit-developments-2025/ https://copyrightalliance.org/ai-copyright-lawsuit-developme... E.g. https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/NYT_Complaint_Dec2023.pdf https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/NYT_Complaint_Dec20... [2] https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/chatgpt-stops-cloning-famous-writers-voices-but-may-capture-a-similar-feeling/ https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/chatgpt-stops-cloning-fam...
vintagedave 2mo ago
For skeptics, just months ago in the midst of the AI hype it was common to ask if AIs were simply copying the input apps they were trained on, and would regurgitate them. I find this plausible. I'd like to see the prompt and chat transcript.
- viccis 2mo ago
  A good way to accomplish this is to ask the AI to give you some good names for the project. It tends to regurgitate those, and a quick search of existing apps will flush it out.

glaslong 2mo ago

"The dog plagiarized my homework"

ceejayoz 2mo ago

> down to the name And an identical bug, per the Bluesky convo Gruber linked. https://bsky.app/profile/mmmeh.bsky.social/post/3mslc3b3u4c2l https://bsky.app/profile/mmmeh.bsky.social/post/3mslc3b3u4c2...

lmc 2mo ago
The 'original' app made heavy use of Claude also, according to its dev in that thread.
- ceejayoz 2mo ago
  But that makes this even more likely to be a ripoff. Getting Claude to make the same exact mistake twice in non-deterministic manner takes real effort!
  - lmc 2mo ago
    Mmm it's still a toss up. Humans are also non-deterministic AF but I'm sure you're familiar with the 'common pitfalls' trope. The 'mea culpa' guy did mislead the Daring Fireball guy, indicating he is full of shit, but LLMs do have an established homogeneity about them.

K0balt 2mo ago

And it’s even more stupid because he just could have asked Claude to build it from scratch. I mean, it’s not Rocket science and all of the resources needed are in the public domain. It would be done in 3 days. 4 hours if you want to ship hot garbage.

ChrisMarshallNY 2mo ago
> 4 hours if you want to ship hot garbage. That seems to be the thing everyone is into, these days.
- K0balt 2mo ago
  Yeah, hot garbage is trending these days, unfortunately.

CircuitSeuss 2mo ago

Why not? There have been quite a few copyright cases alleging this behavior that LLMs are not substantially transformative[1]. Note that cases have largely been ruled in the favor of the AI companies, with courts ruling that model output is “substantially transformative” of training material (although what is currently legally permissible may not be what we feel is socially permissible or ethical). The the fact that these allegations continue to be made, and the fact that AI companies seem to be trying to cover their asses by disallowing prompts which would be likely to create content highly similar to that of copyrighted training material [2] might be enough to at least warrant some consideration that Godier is being honest here. Not that this would absolve Godier (quite the opposite in my mind- low effort ai workflows produce slop, and he chose this intentionally), but perhaps some of the onerousness here also falls on the AI companies pillaging of work. [1] https://copyrightalliance.org/ai-copyright-lawsuit-developments-2025/ https://copyrightalliance.org/ai-copyright-lawsuit-developme... E.g. https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/NYT_Complaint_Dec2023.pdf https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/NYT_Complaint_Dec20... [2] https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/chatgpt-stops-cloning-famous-writers-voices-but-may-capture-a-similar-feeling/ https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/chatgpt-stops-cloning-fam...

vintagedave 2mo ago

For skeptics, just months ago in the midst of the AI hype it was common to ask if AIs were simply copying the input apps they were trained on, and would regurgitate them. I find this plausible. I'd like to see the prompt and chat transcript.

viccis 2mo ago
A good way to accomplish this is to ask the AI to give you some good names for the project. It tends to regurgitate those, and a quick search of existing apps will flush it out.