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The data center in question is being installed next to a Walmart supercenter and highway 101. It’s being built on land zoned for industrial use. It’s not next t

The data center in question is being installed next to a Walmart supercenter and highway 101. It’s being built on land zoned for industrial use. It’s not next to anybody’s home.

fzeroracer 2mo ago
This is false and easily provable by simply looking at the location on the map [1]. It's very clear that it's being built near housing and schooling. Especially a big deal as there's been more recent cases of exceedingly loud data centers carrying noise quite a distance. [1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/D5PDUa62B5weCcqZ7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/D5PDUa62B5weCcqZ7
- sokoloff 2mo ago
  It looks to me like it’s several hundreds of meters away from housing, with a 6-lane divided and controlled-access highway between the housing and the site.
- mikestew 2mo ago
  The only houses I see are across a busy highway (101). The location is in an industrial park with nothing behind it. You’re not wrong, for large values of “near”, but not making a great case.
  - fzeroracer 2mo ago
    It's close enough when you consider that the noise from a poorly built data center (ie: most of the ones being stood up rapidly in the current AI craze) can carry noise upwards of a mile plus depending on a bunch of different factors. So a lot of homes in that area would potentially be within the blast radius of data center noise, especially at night.
- derektank 2mo ago
  You’re right that it does appear to be near a school (I don’t think anything that contradicts anything else I said). I think the health effects of siting a school right on a major highway are much more serious than being near a data center.
- kccqzy 2mo ago
  If noise is the concern then regulate noise. Don’t restrict data centers. If someone’s house has a dog that barks continuously, you aren’t going to say building houses here are restricted. Instead you restrict barking dogs, which is what cities do.
  - fzeroracer 2mo ago
    And companies frequently ignore city-wide noise ordinance thanks to corruption and kickbacks.
    - kccqzy 2mo ago
      And how is that more or less likely then companies ignoring city zoning laws, or making cities grant zoning exceptions through kickbacks and corruption?
      - mindslight 2mo ago
        Much more likely! Zoning exceptions can be opposed and construction is very visible, as with this trend we're starting to see. Whereas once a structure is built the owner will stymie attempts at investigation by denying access, and generally has more resources than a municipality to waste endless time in court. If they're politically connected at the state/national level, they can even nullify existing pollution laws or override local ordinances.

The data center in question is being installed next to a Walmart supercenter and highway 101. It’s being built on land zoned for industrial use. It’s not next to anybody’s home.

fzeroracer 2mo ago

This is false and easily provable by simply looking at the location on the map [1]. It's very clear that it's being built near housing and schooling. Especially a big deal as there's been more recent cases of exceedingly loud data centers carrying noise quite a distance. [1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/D5PDUa62B5weCcqZ7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/D5PDUa62B5weCcqZ7

sokoloff 2mo ago
It looks to me like it’s several hundreds of meters away from housing, with a 6-lane divided and controlled-access highway between the housing and the site.
mikestew 2mo ago
The only houses I see are across a busy highway (101). The location is in an industrial park with nothing behind it. You’re not wrong, for large values of “near”, but not making a great case.
- fzeroracer 2mo ago
  It's close enough when you consider that the noise from a poorly built data center (ie: most of the ones being stood up rapidly in the current AI craze) can carry noise upwards of a mile plus depending on a bunch of different factors. So a lot of homes in that area would potentially be within the blast radius of data center noise, especially at night.
derektank 2mo ago
You’re right that it does appear to be near a school (I don’t think anything that contradicts anything else I said). I think the health effects of siting a school right on a major highway are much more serious than being near a data center.
kccqzy 2mo ago
If noise is the concern then regulate noise. Don’t restrict data centers. If someone’s house has a dog that barks continuously, you aren’t going to say building houses here are restricted. Instead you restrict barking dogs, which is what cities do.
- fzeroracer 2mo ago
  And companies frequently ignore city-wide noise ordinance thanks to corruption and kickbacks.
  - kccqzy 2mo ago
    And how is that more or less likely then companies ignoring city zoning laws, or making cities grant zoning exceptions through kickbacks and corruption?
    - mindslight 2mo ago
      Much more likely! Zoning exceptions can be opposed and construction is very visible, as with this trend we're starting to see. Whereas once a structure is built the owner will stymie attempts at investigation by denying access, and generally has more resources than a municipality to waste endless time in court. If they're politically connected at the state/national level, they can even nullify existing pollution laws or override local ordinances.