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I saw some examples of this while travelling in Japan last year, and am keen to replicate. I suspect, like a lot of things, the local product there is superior
by Jedd 2mo ago
I saw some examples of this while travelling in Japan last year, and am keen to replicate. I suspect, like a lot of things, the local product there is superior to what I could find back home here in AU.
At some castle courtyard, we were walking around on a smooth-white-gravel surface, and I didn't immediately register how different it felt.
Stare at the ground for a few moments, and notice some of the small (15-20mm) off-white pebbles are perfectly aligned on a grid pattern.
Squat down to investigate, and they've got these corners of the plastic mesh geogrid topped off with little white caps that are almost indiscernible from the rounded white aggregate they're using as infill. It was almost like seeing a random dot stereogram, except completely regular (and no dinosaurs) of course.
The math is pretty interesting, and TFA didn't touch on this aspect I don't think. I'm looking to use 10-20mm irregular shaped scoria on a large-ish area, and the heuristic evidently is that your maximum aggregate size should not exceed one third of the geocell depth - so I'd want 50mm depth at most there, sitting on solid-ish sub-layer.
(I believe that heuristic goes out the window if you've got regular shaped gravel.)
The other ratio to consider is aggregate size to cell size, and that, in turn, is dependent on load and slope. Then there's the mechanical attributes of your in-fill (will it slowly crush over time, with expected loads - for softer rocks you'll definitely need a geotextile above your sub-base and below your geo-cell.) All tremendously more complicated than the 'few wheelbarrows of blue metal' I grew up with.
- lathiat 2mo agoThe sad part is how expensive it is (I’m in Australia too). Seems up front like a cheaper alternative to pavers but both the moulded plastic and the soft plastic that fans out versions are a solid $40-$45/sqm AUD. Can buy brick pavers for that and you still have to purchase the pebbles to go in it…
- notatoad 2mo agobrick pavers need a tamped gravel base, then bedding sand, and then polymeric sand to lock them together. the cost of install is not just the cost of pavers. and installation is something that requires enough skill that it's possible to do it wrong. depending on how much weight you plan to drive over it, you might also need to pour a concrete base for them. geogrid is orders of magnitude easier and quicker to install.
- Jedd 2mo agoPavers for $40-45 - are going to be pretty unattractive grey concrete (well, cement) ones, right? Even Bunnings (albeit marketplace) has 100mm geogrid for $20 / square metre. Most local vendors have 'call us for pricing', but I've found a few others in the $10-20 range. Obviously, yes, in-fill on top of that - say $250 a cube depending on your tastes, so add $12-25 per square metre. As per sibling comment - with some fabric underneath, and a modest amount of ground prep, installation of this stuff sounds fast and easy.