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The breathless fearmongering over an age field on account set up is just completely over-the-top. This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to imp

The breathless fearmongering over an age field on account set up is just completely over-the-top. This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. The benefit of this is that it can short-circuit support for more onerous age verification. The writing has been on the wall for some time now: the era of completely unrestricted internet is coming to an end. The question is how awful will the new normal be? Legislation like this is a win all around, a complete nothingburger. We should be celebrating it, not fighting it tooth and nail.

CircuitSeuss 2mo ago
> This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. Less bad is still bad. Normalizing a gated, state controlled internet is bad.
- hackinthebochs 2mo ago
  There's something to be said for realizing which way the winds are blowing and getting ahead of it. The fight against any and all age gating on the internet is already lost. The question is what will the system look like once it comes into being. This is something we have a lot of say over if we just stop being obstinate and start offering solutions. Sticking one's head in the sand will just result in a worse state of affairs in the end.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Note that we already support this exact thing when it's about cookies! Site says: "do you want to enable tracking?" and HN says "why should every site ask me? Can't this be a header or something?" Site says: "do you want to enable adult content?" and government says "why should every site ask you? Can't this be a header or something?" and HN says "OMG TOTALITARIANISM"
- watwut 2mo ago
  We are on the path to gated monopoly controlled internet. So, goverment controlled is better then Musk, Zuckenberg and Altman controlled.
inigyou 2mo ago
This. I really don't get the upset. This is not an age verification law. In fact it makes age verification illegal so isn't that a good thing?
tstrimple 2mo ago
That and there was basically zero uproar on HN for any of the 20+ red states requiring 3rd party ID verification and or face scanning for access to adult content. But when blue states try to implement something far less privacy invasive, that parents can opt into, people lose their minds. https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/pornography-age-verification-laws-what-they-are-and-which-states-have-them/ https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/pornography-age-ve...

CircuitSeuss 2mo ago

> This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. Less bad is still bad. Normalizing a gated, state controlled internet is bad.

hackinthebochs 2mo ago
There's something to be said for realizing which way the winds are blowing and getting ahead of it. The fight against any and all age gating on the internet is already lost. The question is what will the system look like once it comes into being. This is something we have a lot of say over if we just stop being obstinate and start offering solutions. Sticking one's head in the sand will just result in a worse state of affairs in the end.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  Note that we already support this exact thing when it's about cookies! Site says: "do you want to enable tracking?" and HN says "why should every site ask me? Can't this be a header or something?" Site says: "do you want to enable adult content?" and government says "why should every site ask you? Can't this be a header or something?" and HN says "OMG TOTALITARIANISM"
watwut 2mo ago
We are on the path to gated monopoly controlled internet. So, goverment controlled is better then Musk, Zuckenberg and Altman controlled.

inigyou 2mo ago

This. I really don't get the upset. This is not an age verification law. In fact it makes age verification illegal so isn't that a good thing?

tstrimple 2mo ago

That and there was basically zero uproar on HN for any of the 20+ red states requiring 3rd party ID verification and or face scanning for access to adult content. But when blue states try to implement something far less privacy invasive, that parents can opt into, people lose their minds. https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/pornography-age-verification-laws-what-they-are-and-which-states-have-them/ https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/pornography-age-ve...