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Modern dell desktops (like 8th gen+) idle around 10W. Raspberry pi isn’t saving much

by auspiv 2mo ago

lostlogin 2mo ago
I’m impressed with that. I had a Nuc 9 extreme with a 10gb SFP card in it. It averaged 69w. The Mac Mini I replaced it with uses just under 5w. A Mini is possible the worst bang for buck. Also, the horror that that is Desktop Docker can’t be over emphasised. I know there are better ways of using Docker on a Mac, but having got something working I can’t face rebuilding it.
- microtonal 2mo ago
  But when starting from scratch, it might be better to get an older Mini that is supported by Asahi and run Linux on it.
- kalleboo 2mo ago
  My home router is a Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny with a Core i3-8100T with a dual 10Gbit SFP in it (1x DAC, 1x 10GBase-T) and it idles at 14W, routing 10gbit full bore 24W. I got it for $80 I also have some Fujitsu office machine I picked up for $50 as my "I need to run some random task on a physical linux box" machine with an i5-7500 and it idles at 15W
- sgt 2mo ago
  What's wrong with Docker desktop? Been using it everyday for at least 5 years.
  - chrisldgk 2mo ago
    It’s sluggish, it’s incredibly bloated with all the services that Docker (the company) wants to sell you and the UI is badly designed. OrbStack is my go-to when it comes to running docker on Mac. It also uses macOS native containerization APIs so containers will be a bit more performant than they would (at least use to) be on Docker Desktop. Another good approach if you’re fine without a GUI or want to bring your own is just ‚brew install docker‘.
    - sgt 2mo ago
      I'll check it out. Yes, no UI needed. I run Docker Desktop but I don't think I've used the UI more than on ce.
    - knowaveragejoe 2mo ago
      The main gotcha I encountered with orbstack was with pulling down internally built amd64 images and trying to run them on apple silicon. I just remember constantly running into issues and going back to docker desktop as a result, even if their solution is janky in its own way.
  - cgyvbunji 2mo ago
    Not much, it's an "I use arch btw" kind of thing but for docker.
  - lostlogin 2mo ago
    Trying to get it to open on startup and start containers in a particular order is a little finicky. But the real hell is trying to get it to start containers after the network shares have connected. I’ve got it working, but compared to doing it in compose, it’s awful.
- Peanuts99 2mo ago
  Some of those SFP cards can use quite a bit of energy on their own. They're not designed with energy efficiency in mind. I've got an Optiplex with an i5 and two hard drives and that idles around 12W when idling.
p0w3n3d 2mo ago
I made calculations and got the same results. Bought low profile and as a server

Modern dell desktops (like 8th gen+) idle around 10W. Raspberry pi isn’t saving much

by auspiv 2mo ago

Modern dell desktops (like 8th gen+) idle around 10W. Raspberry pi isn’t saving much

I’m impressed with that. I had a Nuc 9 extreme with a 10gb SFP card in it. It averaged 69w. The Mac Mini I replaced it with uses just under 5w. A Mini is possible the worst bang for buck. Also, the horror that that is Desktop Docker can’t be over emphasised. I know there are better ways of using Docker on a Mac, but having got something working I can’t face rebuilding it.

microtonal 2mo ago
But when starting from scratch, it might be better to get an older Mini that is supported by Asahi and run Linux on it.
kalleboo 2mo ago
My home router is a Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny with a Core i3-8100T with a dual 10Gbit SFP in it (1x DAC, 1x 10GBase-T) and it idles at 14W, routing 10gbit full bore 24W. I got it for $80 I also have some Fujitsu office machine I picked up for $50 as my "I need to run some random task on a physical linux box" machine with an i5-7500 and it idles at 15W
sgt 2mo ago
What's wrong with Docker desktop? Been using it everyday for at least 5 years.
- chrisldgk 2mo ago
  It’s sluggish, it’s incredibly bloated with all the services that Docker (the company) wants to sell you and the UI is badly designed. OrbStack is my go-to when it comes to running docker on Mac. It also uses macOS native containerization APIs so containers will be a bit more performant than they would (at least use to) be on Docker Desktop. Another good approach if you’re fine without a GUI or want to bring your own is just ‚brew install docker‘.
  - sgt 2mo ago
    I'll check it out. Yes, no UI needed. I run Docker Desktop but I don't think I've used the UI more than on ce.
  - knowaveragejoe 2mo ago
    The main gotcha I encountered with orbstack was with pulling down internally built amd64 images and trying to run them on apple silicon. I just remember constantly running into issues and going back to docker desktop as a result, even if their solution is janky in its own way.
- cgyvbunji 2mo ago
  Not much, it's an "I use arch btw" kind of thing but for docker.
- lostlogin 2mo ago
  Trying to get it to open on startup and start containers in a particular order is a little finicky. But the real hell is trying to get it to start containers after the network shares have connected. I’ve got it working, but compared to doing it in compose, it’s awful.
Peanuts99 2mo ago
Some of those SFP cards can use quite a bit of energy on their own. They're not designed with energy efficiency in mind. I've got an Optiplex with an i5 and two hard drives and that idles around 12W when idling.

p0w3n3d 2mo ago

I made calculations and got the same results. Bought low profile and as a server