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I won't argue the science, since you're likely correct, but taking one substance to counter the effects of another doesn't do anything to address the root cause

I won't argue the science, since you're likely correct, but taking one substance to counter the effects of another doesn't do anything to address the root cause of the problem. It's no use curing alcoholism only to have it replaced by gambling, drugs or sex. The issue is that the addiction is used as a crutch to avoid dealing with the real problem. Until you deal with that real problem - and some of them are extremely difficult to "deal" with, so I'm not trying to downplay this - you will not really be "cured".

mnicole 14y ago
Part of why it is so effective is because the perspective changes it induces not only lessens the desire to divulge, but changes the outlook you have on life that is causing you to do it in the first place. It's not a "cure" rather than a means to get people to look at their life differently, which is what motivates them to go an opposite direction. While they can provide a social outlet for support, I don't think that AA or religion can have such an immediately life-altering impact on someone as much as they, themselves, can.
- run4yourlives 14y ago
  Sure, but then you need to take LSD to maintain that state. Once you remove that actor, the person rewires to think the way they did before. That's my issue.
  - mnicole 14y ago
    I'm not sure if you're familiar with these types of experiences. The entire point is that it permanently changes your outlook (for the better) after only a few uses, give or take per person. Not to get all stereotypical answer, but Steve Jobs attributes a single trip to the vision he maintained for the rest of his life. And even if that were the case, what's the difference between taking a dose of LSD every three months and taking an over-the-counter every single day for the rest of your life, particularly when -- as with the recent case with Wellbutrin XL -- the FDA is approving things that do more harm than good because they're literally not doing any research on them?

mnicole 14y ago

Part of why it is so effective is because the perspective changes it induces not only lessens the desire to divulge, but changes the outlook you have on life that is causing you to do it in the first place. It's not a "cure" rather than a means to get people to look at their life differently, which is what motivates them to go an opposite direction. While they can provide a social outlet for support, I don't think that AA or religion can have such an immediately life-altering impact on someone as much as they, themselves, can.

run4yourlives 14y ago
Sure, but then you need to take LSD to maintain that state. Once you remove that actor, the person rewires to think the way they did before. That's my issue.
- mnicole 14y ago
  I'm not sure if you're familiar with these types of experiences. The entire point is that it permanently changes your outlook (for the better) after only a few uses, give or take per person. Not to get all stereotypical answer, but Steve Jobs attributes a single trip to the vision he maintained for the rest of his life. And even if that were the case, what's the difference between taking a dose of LSD every three months and taking an over-the-counter every single day for the rest of your life, particularly when -- as with the recent case with Wellbutrin XL -- the FDA is approving things that do more harm than good because they're literally not doing any research on them?