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Procuring a gun doesn't mean it was done over a counter.

by mnicole 14y ago

nollidge 14y ago
Of course not, but I'm not sure what that has to do with my comment.
- mnicole 14y ago
  Sorry, thought you were insinuating that changing the laws on obtaining one would make a difference in stopping those who will essentially do whatever they need to to get it. :)
  - nollidge 14y ago
    I definitely was insinuating that, along with lots of other things. So everyone who wants a gun will do whatever they need to get it? No one who wants a gun will be deterred by any possible prevention measures? Measures such as background checks, safety class requirements, mental health checks, restrictions on high-capacity or high-throughput weapons, higher taxes, manufacturer and supply chain oversight, spying on domestic traffickers, or closing the gun show loophole?
  - mnicole 14y ago
    It won't let me reply directly to you this deep in the thread - > I definitely was insinuating that, along with lots of other things. So everyone who wants a gun will do whatever they need to get it? Measures such as background checks, safety class requirements, mental health checks, restrictions on high-capacity or high-throughput weapons, higher taxes, manufacturer and supply chain oversight, spying on domestic traffickers, or closing the gun show loophole? You can help control/prevent, yes, but I'm strongly in the camp that if there's a will, there's a way.
    - nollidge 14y ago
      But how many people have that kind of will? How many are truly disturbed monsters, and how many are just angry and upset and have poor impulse control and are enabled to commit atrocities by easy access to firearms?
      - mnicole 14y ago
        Easy access is subjective; we all know people that own guns. It's my recollection that in at least two of the school shootings, trying to find weapons to use was one of the primary objectives and it took stealing them from outside of their own homes to acquire them. When you are willing to partake in something so gruesome, I doubt burglary is the biggest of your concerns. I'd be willing to bet that the [illegal] acquisition process is actually enticing and empowering for them.

Procuring a gun doesn't mean it was done over a counter.

by mnicole 14y ago

Procuring a gun doesn't mean it was done over a counter.

nollidge 14y ago

Of course not, but I'm not sure what that has to do with my comment.

mnicole 14y ago
Sorry, thought you were insinuating that changing the laws on obtaining one would make a difference in stopping those who will essentially do whatever they need to to get it. :)
- nollidge 14y ago
  I definitely was insinuating that, along with lots of other things. So everyone who wants a gun will do whatever they need to get it? No one who wants a gun will be deterred by any possible prevention measures? Measures such as background checks, safety class requirements, mental health checks, restrictions on high-capacity or high-throughput weapons, higher taxes, manufacturer and supply chain oversight, spying on domestic traffickers, or closing the gun show loophole?
- mnicole 14y ago
  It won't let me reply directly to you this deep in the thread - > I definitely was insinuating that, along with lots of other things. So everyone who wants a gun will do whatever they need to get it? Measures such as background checks, safety class requirements, mental health checks, restrictions on high-capacity or high-throughput weapons, higher taxes, manufacturer and supply chain oversight, spying on domestic traffickers, or closing the gun show loophole? You can help control/prevent, yes, but I'm strongly in the camp that if there's a will, there's a way.
  - nollidge 14y ago
    But how many people have that kind of will? How many are truly disturbed monsters, and how many are just angry and upset and have poor impulse control and are enabled to commit atrocities by easy access to firearms?
    - mnicole 14y ago
      Easy access is subjective; we all know people that own guns. It's my recollection that in at least two of the school shootings, trying to find weapons to use was one of the primary objectives and it took stealing them from outside of their own homes to acquire them. When you are willing to partake in something so gruesome, I doubt burglary is the biggest of your concerns. I'd be willing to bet that the [illegal] acquisition process is actually enticing and empowering for them.