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This is why we all need to rally around Firefox (or Librewolf, or Waterfox, or whatever fork you prefer) and make sure that sacred goose is never tampered with.

KetoManx64 2mo ago
Ladybird is the future. Firefox is a joke at this point
- nvme0n1p1 2mo ago
  Ladybird may be the future, but for us non-time-travelers, Firefox is currently the best option.
- paxys 2mo ago
  Why is Firefox a joke?
  - doublerabbit 2mo ago
    Because of Mozilla.
    - paxys 2mo ago
      Doesn’t answer the question
      - doublerabbit 2mo ago
        Yes it does. Just read up on Mozilla. Mozilla receives the vast majority of its funding—roughly $400 million annually from Google Mozilla has made announcements regarding transforming Firefox into an AI-heavy browser and have started alienating longtime open-source supporters Massive salaries paid to Mozilla Foundation executives. Firefox is a joke because it's no longer a users browser. Rather than it just being a browser it's now a VPN, Ai and other. I give it two years before it starts shoving advertisements.
        paxys 2mo ago
        I have used Firefox every day for over a decade. There are no AI features. There is no advertising. There is no restriction on extensions. Have never seen a VPN or anything other than an address bar that loads websites. It is probably the only modern standards complaint browser that is fully FOSS and out of corporate control. Stop getting your news from corporate propaganda and the outrage mob.
        deleted 2mo ago
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        lodovic 2mo ago
        Try refreshing Firefox. On opening it shows two recommendations for Google; a large "VPN" button in the address bar; a toast asking me for my weather location; the address bar tries to cross sell me three Mozilla products: "Monitor, Relay and VPN". I'm not sure how the new AI stuff works as I never enabled it, but apparently that's there, too.
        doublerabbit 2mo ago
        > Stop getting your news from corporate propaganda and the outrage mob. Mate, It's even bundled with FreeBSD releases which is as far from corporate propaganda and outrageous mob you can get. I use FreeBSD. With every new install of firefox requires you have to remove: sponsored content and news from tabs, Pocket. It asks you if you desire to use Mozilla Ai and many other Mozilla third party shite. So maybe it should be you who needs to open their eyes. Reformat your OS and reinstall Firefox and then tell me it doesn't come with shite.
        porksoda 2mo ago
        One can just click the little buttons once, and get on with the business of the day. I don't understand why this seems so hard?
        doublerabbit 2mo ago
pessimizer 2mo ago
That goose was already roasted. Firefox can't be trusted with Mozilla because Mozilla can't be trusted with Firefox. They intervened in the most important antitrust trial so far this millennium on Google's side (to support paying off their direct competitors), contributing to actual harm to society. Somebody who has already made their money needs to fork the thing and put it into an actual public service nonprofit, rather than another creepy branch of the nonprofit-military-industrial complex. Not somebody whose CEO came from Voice of America, WeWork, Wikipedia, Northrop-Grumman, the NSA or some bank, talking about how much they need to innovate and create strategic partnerships. Instead, get somebody who wants to make and maintain a safe, minimal, light, modular browser that works exclusively for its user, and whose components can be easily be included in other projects.

KetoManx64 2mo ago

Ladybird is the future. Firefox is a joke at this point

nvme0n1p1 2mo ago
Ladybird may be the future, but for us non-time-travelers, Firefox is currently the best option.
paxys 2mo ago
Why is Firefox a joke?
- doublerabbit 2mo ago
  Because of Mozilla.
  - paxys 2mo ago
    Doesn’t answer the question
    - doublerabbit 2mo ago
      Yes it does. Just read up on Mozilla. Mozilla receives the vast majority of its funding—roughly $400 million annually from Google Mozilla has made announcements regarding transforming Firefox into an AI-heavy browser and have started alienating longtime open-source supporters Massive salaries paid to Mozilla Foundation executives. Firefox is a joke because it's no longer a users browser. Rather than it just being a browser it's now a VPN, Ai and other. I give it two years before it starts shoving advertisements.
      - paxys 2mo ago
        I have used Firefox every day for over a decade. There are no AI features. There is no advertising. There is no restriction on extensions. Have never seen a VPN or anything other than an address bar that loads websites. It is probably the only modern standards complaint browser that is fully FOSS and out of corporate control. Stop getting your news from corporate propaganda and the outrage mob.
        deleted 2mo ago
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        lodovic 2mo ago
        Try refreshing Firefox. On opening it shows two recommendations for Google; a large "VPN" button in the address bar; a toast asking me for my weather location; the address bar tries to cross sell me three Mozilla products: "Monitor, Relay and VPN". I'm not sure how the new AI stuff works as I never enabled it, but apparently that's there, too.
        doublerabbit 2mo ago
        > Stop getting your news from corporate propaganda and the outrage mob. Mate, It's even bundled with FreeBSD releases which is as far from corporate propaganda and outrageous mob you can get. I use FreeBSD. With every new install of firefox requires you have to remove: sponsored content and news from tabs, Pocket. It asks you if you desire to use Mozilla Ai and many other Mozilla third party shite. So maybe it should be you who needs to open their eyes. Reformat your OS and reinstall Firefox and then tell me it doesn't come with shite.
        porksoda 2mo ago
        One can just click the little buttons once, and get on with the business of the day. I don't understand why this seems so hard?
        doublerabbit 2mo ago

pessimizer 2mo ago

That goose was already roasted. Firefox can't be trusted with Mozilla because Mozilla can't be trusted with Firefox. They intervened in the most important antitrust trial so far this millennium on Google's side (to support paying off their direct competitors), contributing to actual harm to society. Somebody who has already made their money needs to fork the thing and put it into an actual public service nonprofit, rather than another creepy branch of the nonprofit-military-industrial complex. Not somebody whose CEO came from Voice of America, WeWork, Wikipedia, Northrop-Grumman, the NSA or some bank, talking about how much they need to innovate and create strategic partnerships. Instead, get somebody who wants to make and maintain a safe, minimal, light, modular browser that works exclusively for its user, and whose components can be easily be included in other projects.