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Glad to see this brought up! My entire Air Force experience is blocked to comment on besides basic training...Tech school and forward is NDA'd, read in, etc Yo

Glad to see this brought up! My entire Air Force experience is blocked to comment on besides basic training...Tech school and forward is NDA'd, read in, etc You don't really get to sneak a glimpse of operations and write a book like the SEALs seem get to (jk!)

johnnyApplePRNG 2mo ago
So just suffer in silence because you signed some papers when you were too young to understand what they really meant? That's horrible. I almost signed up for the Canadian Military back in the early 2000s and I think my lucky stars every day that I skipped that last recruitment meeting.
- roysting 2mo ago
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halJordan 2mo ago
Your tech school is not nda'd.
- zbentley 2mo ago
  I’ve worked with folks from The Citadel who had parts of their studies they were not allowed to talk about. When doing a hiring reference check that was confirmed by school staff. I don’t know if it was an NDA in the traditional sense; I was just a tech interviewer.
  - nosmokewhereiam 2mo ago
    1N4X1 technical training is classified for most portions, but yeah not an NDA. Great clarification!
- thatfunkymunki 2mo ago
  Significant parts of my tech school (1B4X1) were under NDA back in 2015.
jawiggins 2mo ago
What is it about being a Navy Seal that makes you want to become an influencer? From the books, podcasts, and misc media appearances you'd think that the Seal Teams were made for media like the Blue Angels.
- mapotofu 2mo ago
  There’s a constant cultural stream of validation for their job, and the more narcissistic ones come to collect from it. You’re missing the many who don’t do that.
- jcranmer 2mo ago
  Citing from the Behind the Bastards podcast, it seems that the guy who started Seal Team 6 wrote a book about his time in special ops (which was mostly lies, AIUI) after he left the military, made a lot of military, and so everybody who has similar dreams gravitates specifically towards the Navy Seals.
- austin-cheney 2mo ago
  I should write a book about being a fobbit in the Army who sits around all day bored as hell. I suspect it would sound strikingly similar to Catch 22.
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- podocarp 2mo ago
  Unfortunately, probably narcissism with a small dash of psychopathy. That and also due to the prominent Osama assassination by the Seals. A prime example being "American sniper" Chris Kyle who openly writes in his book how happy he is to shoot people and was sued for defamation. He also claims to have shot a couple of carjackers in a gas station and was let off by the police because he was a badass (???). Couldn't find a primary source for it but see e.g. https://www.mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle https://www.mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-t... As a disclaimer I'm not making the claim that all seals, special forces, or military members are mentally ill. I'm just saying that the arch from being able to take the toughest training on earth and going into active combat to influencer sprinkled with some lies and fabrications is not a healthy psyche. There are plenty of seals that have retired and gone on as normal functioning members of society.
le-mark 2mo ago
> You don't really get to sneak a glimpse of operations and write a book like the SEALs seem get to (jk!) My understanding is their books are reviewed by the pentagon and don’t reveal the real secret operational details and that’s how they get away with it. Presumably someone like yourself could also write a book and have the pentagon redact it in a similar manner?
- nosmokewhereiam 2mo ago
  ...that's what's being said here: nothing gets out. Cyber doesn't equal direct action regarding declassification or piecing together bits of unclass doesn't lead to the book. For every 1 million cybers, three books are written lol Every manned operation gets a book mention, eventually.
downrightmike 2mo ago
Just write a fiction book
laughing_man 2mo ago
My dad did 20 in the USAF. We would ask him about his work and he would just shrug. He wasn't allowed to say anything. Eventually we stopped asking -- what would be the point? Decades later I found out he felt like nobody cared about him because we stopped asking about his work.
- wartywhoa23 2mo ago
  It's sad when people totally associate themselves with their work, whatever that is.

johnnyApplePRNG 2mo ago

So just suffer in silence because you signed some papers when you were too young to understand what they really meant? That's horrible. I almost signed up for the Canadian Military back in the early 2000s and I think my lucky stars every day that I skipped that last recruitment meeting.

roysting 2mo ago
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halJordan 2mo ago

Your tech school is not nda'd.

zbentley 2mo ago
I’ve worked with folks from The Citadel who had parts of their studies they were not allowed to talk about. When doing a hiring reference check that was confirmed by school staff. I don’t know if it was an NDA in the traditional sense; I was just a tech interviewer.
- nosmokewhereiam 2mo ago
  1N4X1 technical training is classified for most portions, but yeah not an NDA. Great clarification!
thatfunkymunki 2mo ago
Significant parts of my tech school (1B4X1) were under NDA back in 2015.

jawiggins 2mo ago

What is it about being a Navy Seal that makes you want to become an influencer? From the books, podcasts, and misc media appearances you'd think that the Seal Teams were made for media like the Blue Angels.

mapotofu 2mo ago
There’s a constant cultural stream of validation for their job, and the more narcissistic ones come to collect from it. You’re missing the many who don’t do that.
jcranmer 2mo ago
Citing from the Behind the Bastards podcast, it seems that the guy who started Seal Team 6 wrote a book about his time in special ops (which was mostly lies, AIUI) after he left the military, made a lot of military, and so everybody who has similar dreams gravitates specifically towards the Navy Seals.
austin-cheney 2mo ago
I should write a book about being a fobbit in the Army who sits around all day bored as hell. I suspect it would sound strikingly similar to Catch 22.
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podocarp 2mo ago
Unfortunately, probably narcissism with a small dash of psychopathy. That and also due to the prominent Osama assassination by the Seals. A prime example being "American sniper" Chris Kyle who openly writes in his book how happy he is to shoot people and was sued for defamation. He also claims to have shot a couple of carjackers in a gas station and was let off by the police because he was a badass (???). Couldn't find a primary source for it but see e.g. https://www.mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle https://www.mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-t... As a disclaimer I'm not making the claim that all seals, special forces, or military members are mentally ill. I'm just saying that the arch from being able to take the toughest training on earth and going into active combat to influencer sprinkled with some lies and fabrications is not a healthy psyche. There are plenty of seals that have retired and gone on as normal functioning members of society.

le-mark 2mo ago

> You don't really get to sneak a glimpse of operations and write a book like the SEALs seem get to (jk!) My understanding is their books are reviewed by the pentagon and don’t reveal the real secret operational details and that’s how they get away with it. Presumably someone like yourself could also write a book and have the pentagon redact it in a similar manner?

nosmokewhereiam 2mo ago
...that's what's being said here: nothing gets out. Cyber doesn't equal direct action regarding declassification or piecing together bits of unclass doesn't lead to the book. For every 1 million cybers, three books are written lol Every manned operation gets a book mention, eventually.

downrightmike 2mo ago

Just write a fiction book

laughing_man 2mo ago

My dad did 20 in the USAF. We would ask him about his work and he would just shrug. He wasn't allowed to say anything. Eventually we stopped asking -- what would be the point? Decades later I found out he felt like nobody cared about him because we stopped asking about his work.

wartywhoa23 2mo ago
It's sad when people totally associate themselves with their work, whatever that is.