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What gets overlooked here is the US IC itself being a probable cause: the habit of "housecleaning" by killing individuals suspected to be possible (even only pr

What gets overlooked here is the US IC itself being a probable cause: the habit of "housecleaning" by killing individuals suspected to be possible (even only prospective) leaks of information is very real. The recent cluster of weird deaths and disappearances of scientists linked to secret military research has a similar pattern to it: a statistically highly unlikely density of "suicides, accidents & mishaps".

XorNot 2mo ago
You have absolutely no information on whether this is probable or likely, and the recent news on scientists was a conspiracy theory powered as usual by a cherry picking facts and exaggerating biographies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_...
SubiculumCode 2mo ago
If so, then the family members of the president are in danger!
quickthrowman 2mo ago
> The recent cluster of weird deaths and disappearances of scientists linked to secret military research has a similar pattern to it The pattern being that the deaths and disappearances among people with top secret clearances is lower than the national average would suggest. > According to science writer Mick West, more than 700,000 people work in top-secret-cleared positions in the U.S. aerospace and nuclear sectors. When viewed against existing mortality rates and causes, this would suggest around 250 persons in the industry would normally succumb to homicides and suicides over the time-period during which the 10 or 11 alleged "missing scientists" had died or disappeared, with thousands more dying of natural causes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_...
- neuroticnews25 2mo ago
  Just think how many ordinary people they have to randomly kill to keep it that way.
wbl 2mo ago
The US doesn't even kill foreign leaders. Our intelligence service doesn't have the skills or appetite, let alone citizens. The resulting scandal would make the Church commission look like nothing, not to mention the impact on recruitment.
- a2800276 2mo ago
  Yes, they only kill random fishermen in the Caribbean, foreign leaders get kidnapped and tried in kangaroo courts. Except Iranian leaders, those do get killed. But that's just the last 6 months.
  - wbl 2mo ago
    Those were military not CIA. The distinction really matters!
    - krapp 2mo ago
      >The distinction really matters! to whom?
      - polotics 2mo ago
        to recruiters explaining: we are the good guys!
    - ddq 2mo ago
      >The US doesn't even kill foreign leaders. Is the US military somehow not "the US"? Do you not have any shame just blatantly lying like this?
    - a2800276 2mo ago
      Regardless that you said "the US doesn't...", there's no way the CIA was not central to kidnapping Maduro and as for Khamenei: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/cia-israel-ayatollah-compound.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/cia-israel-ay... I'm not sure why the distinction matters, the Navy and Coast Guard also need to recruit. I could imagine at least an occasional sailor is troubled by shooting drowning seamen, even if they are suspected smugglers. Perhaps even a few civilians are troubled by the lack of regard for human life of the psychos running the show, eliminating any moral standing the world pretended the US had.
strictnein 2mo ago
> "is very real" Except it's not.
polotics 2mo ago
can you prove it? and if you can, you being still alive kinda contradicts...

XorNot 2mo ago

You have absolutely no information on whether this is probable or likely, and the recent news on scientists was a conspiracy theory powered as usual by a cherry picking facts and exaggerating biographies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_...

SubiculumCode 2mo ago

If so, then the family members of the president are in danger!

quickthrowman 2mo ago

> The recent cluster of weird deaths and disappearances of scientists linked to secret military research has a similar pattern to it The pattern being that the deaths and disappearances among people with top secret clearances is lower than the national average would suggest. > According to science writer Mick West, more than 700,000 people work in top-secret-cleared positions in the U.S. aerospace and nuclear sectors. When viewed against existing mortality rates and causes, this would suggest around 250 persons in the industry would normally succumb to homicides and suicides over the time-period during which the 10 or 11 alleged "missing scientists" had died or disappeared, with thousands more dying of natural causes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_...

neuroticnews25 2mo ago
Just think how many ordinary people they have to randomly kill to keep it that way.

wbl 2mo ago

The US doesn't even kill foreign leaders. Our intelligence service doesn't have the skills or appetite, let alone citizens. The resulting scandal would make the Church commission look like nothing, not to mention the impact on recruitment.

a2800276 2mo ago
Yes, they only kill random fishermen in the Caribbean, foreign leaders get kidnapped and tried in kangaroo courts. Except Iranian leaders, those do get killed. But that's just the last 6 months.
- wbl 2mo ago
  Those were military not CIA. The distinction really matters!
  - krapp 2mo ago
    >The distinction really matters! to whom?
    - polotics 2mo ago
      to recruiters explaining: we are the good guys!
  - ddq 2mo ago
    >The US doesn't even kill foreign leaders. Is the US military somehow not "the US"? Do you not have any shame just blatantly lying like this?
  - a2800276 2mo ago
    Regardless that you said "the US doesn't...", there's no way the CIA was not central to kidnapping Maduro and as for Khamenei: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/cia-israel-ayatollah-compound.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/us/politics/cia-israel-ay... I'm not sure why the distinction matters, the Navy and Coast Guard also need to recruit. I could imagine at least an occasional sailor is troubled by shooting drowning seamen, even if they are suspected smugglers. Perhaps even a few civilians are troubled by the lack of regard for human life of the psychos running the show, eliminating any moral standing the world pretended the US had.

strictnein 2mo ago

> "is very real" Except it's not.

polotics 2mo ago

can you prove it? and if you can, you being still alive kinda contradicts...