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> Will my kids be an ethnic minority in their own country in the next generation - and if so, what's that going to be like for them? What about this is an esse

> Will my kids be an ethnic minority in their own country in the next generation - and if so, what's that going to be like for them? What about this is an essential concern for you? Like, what are the potential harms?

fabioborellini 2mo ago
He knows how white Americans treat minorities
- andsoitis 2mo ago
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andsoitis 2mo ago
> > Will my kids be an ethnic minority in their own country in the next generation - and if so, what's that going to be like for them? > What about this is an essential concern for you? Like, what are the potential harms? European countries take great care in maintaining and strengthening their traditions and cultural heritage. That would be at risk. Now, whether or not that actually matters or not is debatable, but Europeans DO seem to care to keep their cultures and traditions alive.
- kwdev 2mo ago
  This fear of "the others" that don't look like us or dare to have their own culture coming and "stealing" your cake has been used as a cheap distraction tactic for ages. It backfired for Germany, it's gonna backfire for the US. I really like this metaphor: A politician, a voter, and an immigrant are at a BBQ. There's 100 sausages on the grill. The politician goes up, takes 99 sausages, turns to the voter and says "quick, that immigrant is gonna steal your sausage". It's truly frustrating how effective it is to distract the general population by just inciting fear like that. I lived all over the place after growing up in the Catholic German country side. I think the places most afraid from cultural dilution are the ones that needed it the most. It's also so funny how folks in the US keep forgetting that they literally used to be immigrants of all sorts of origins and what made them so successful is leveraging the diverse perspectives. Most of this whole AI boom is based on work from people that came to the US from less privileged places all working together for something greater than them.
  - andsoitis 2mo ago
    Totally agree. What do you think about all the money and energy that European countries spend on propping up their traditions and cultural heritage VS just letting it evolve "naturally" as demographics shift?
- convolvatron 2mo ago
  you can't fault people for being confused. just because some people in the US have latched on 'cultural integrity' as their new favorite racist dogwhistle doesn't mean that it makes sense at all to anyone else. its really funny. some people are fighting a fictional war that the 'other side' isn't really engaged in, and they're losing. the other funny thing is that if you asked someone what the largest threat to their cultural identity is, a lot of them wouldn't answer immigrants - they would be more concerned about the cancerous US style anodyne consumer culture and media as being the most corrosive
- nativeit 2mo ago
  What are all these presently dominant cultures that are so fragile that the mere presence of others represents an existential threat? Sounds like an excuse for xenophobia more than a sincere concern.
xyzelement 2mo ago
I think there are very few countries that can claim to have a good setup for an ethnic minority. Singapore, US, Israel, western Europe. Most of the world - being an ethnic minority sucks. As western Europe changes the ethnic western Europeans may not enjoy their treatment.
- bdangubic 2mo ago
  I would rather have my entire body waxed that be an ethnic minority for a month in the countries you listed (minus Singapore)
  - xyzelement 2mo ago
    What are the counties not on my list where it's better to be an ethnic minority?
    - bdangubic 2mo ago
      canada and norway for sure but you probably don’t want to be ethnic minority anywhere unfortunately
      - xyzelement 2mo ago
        What's an example of an ethnic minority that's better off in Canada vs US
        blooalien 2mo ago
        > What's an example of an ethnic minority that's better off in Canada vs US Considering our current "leadership" here in the USA, probably any minority with any shade of "brown" to their skin-tone?
        xyzelement 2mo ago
        What are you even talking about?
gspr 2mo ago
To racists, people who look different are inherently harmful. Racists are terrible.

fabioborellini 2mo ago

He knows how white Americans treat minorities

andsoitis 2mo ago
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andsoitis 2mo ago

> > Will my kids be an ethnic minority in their own country in the next generation - and if so, what's that going to be like for them? > What about this is an essential concern for you? Like, what are the potential harms? European countries take great care in maintaining and strengthening their traditions and cultural heritage. That would be at risk. Now, whether or not that actually matters or not is debatable, but Europeans DO seem to care to keep their cultures and traditions alive.

kwdev 2mo ago
This fear of "the others" that don't look like us or dare to have their own culture coming and "stealing" your cake has been used as a cheap distraction tactic for ages. It backfired for Germany, it's gonna backfire for the US. I really like this metaphor: A politician, a voter, and an immigrant are at a BBQ. There's 100 sausages on the grill. The politician goes up, takes 99 sausages, turns to the voter and says "quick, that immigrant is gonna steal your sausage". It's truly frustrating how effective it is to distract the general population by just inciting fear like that. I lived all over the place after growing up in the Catholic German country side. I think the places most afraid from cultural dilution are the ones that needed it the most. It's also so funny how folks in the US keep forgetting that they literally used to be immigrants of all sorts of origins and what made them so successful is leveraging the diverse perspectives. Most of this whole AI boom is based on work from people that came to the US from less privileged places all working together for something greater than them.
- andsoitis 2mo ago
  Totally agree. What do you think about all the money and energy that European countries spend on propping up their traditions and cultural heritage VS just letting it evolve "naturally" as demographics shift?
convolvatron 2mo ago
you can't fault people for being confused. just because some people in the US have latched on 'cultural integrity' as their new favorite racist dogwhistle doesn't mean that it makes sense at all to anyone else. its really funny. some people are fighting a fictional war that the 'other side' isn't really engaged in, and they're losing. the other funny thing is that if you asked someone what the largest threat to their cultural identity is, a lot of them wouldn't answer immigrants - they would be more concerned about the cancerous US style anodyne consumer culture and media as being the most corrosive
nativeit 2mo ago
What are all these presently dominant cultures that are so fragile that the mere presence of others represents an existential threat? Sounds like an excuse for xenophobia more than a sincere concern.

xyzelement 2mo ago

I think there are very few countries that can claim to have a good setup for an ethnic minority. Singapore, US, Israel, western Europe. Most of the world - being an ethnic minority sucks. As western Europe changes the ethnic western Europeans may not enjoy their treatment.

bdangubic 2mo ago
I would rather have my entire body waxed that be an ethnic minority for a month in the countries you listed (minus Singapore)
- xyzelement 2mo ago
  What are the counties not on my list where it's better to be an ethnic minority?
  - bdangubic 2mo ago
    canada and norway for sure but you probably don’t want to be ethnic minority anywhere unfortunately
    - xyzelement 2mo ago
      What's an example of an ethnic minority that's better off in Canada vs US
      - blooalien 2mo ago
        > What's an example of an ethnic minority that's better off in Canada vs US Considering our current "leadership" here in the USA, probably any minority with any shade of "brown" to their skin-tone?
        xyzelement 2mo ago
        What are you even talking about?

gspr 2mo ago

To racists, people who look different are inherently harmful. Racists are terrible.