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> If it doesn't disappear, then it's hanging right there for any of the competitors to use. That's a problem for the original installer's ongoing employment. I

> If it doesn't disappear, then it's hanging right there for any of the competitors to use. That's a problem for the original installer's ongoing employment. Is that really an issue? Do PLC vendors have concerns about other vendors turning up and yanking USB drives out of critical infrastructure with reckless abandon? Do the facilities themselves see no issue with potential vendors yanking operational utilities out of their systems while they are running?

ssl-3 3mo ago
Eh? It's just a thumb drive, on a lanyard, hanging in a cabinet. It's not like it has guards posted. :) Maybe Joe (from shipping) took it back to his desk to have a squiz at it and try to passively learn something new during some otherwise-downtime and never returned it -- years ago. That cabinet is in his area, so he has the key. Maybe Tim (the plant electrician) borrowed it to get something else done, and it unintentionally disappeared somewhere along the way. Tim has all of the keys for all of the things. Maybe Emily (the ubergeek who prides herself on being able to code her way out of a mess on any system) had it in her office before she got hit by a car and lost the ability to communicate with polysyllabic words. She borrowed Joe's cabinet key after he mentioned an issue. Either way, it was just a thumb drive that had been inside of the cabinet, and now it is gone.
- skinfaxi 3mo ago
  Things like thumb drives physically connected to cabinets can just disappear in your environment with no followup whatsoever? And that's regular, expected, and desired?
  - ssl-3 3mo ago
    So they conduct a formal investigation. Top Men descend upon the facility to figure out whether we blame Joe, or Tim, or Emily. Heads roll. And the thumb drive is still gone, isn't it? --- No, it's not regular. It's not desired. Does shit never go wrong in your world? If not, then: Perhaps you should start expecting it to. :)
  - lostlogin 3mo ago
    > Things like thumb drives physically connected to cabinets can just disappear in your environment with no followup whatsoever? Yes. I follow up. No one ever knows. > And that's regular, Yes > expected Yes > and desired? No.
kotaKat 3mo ago
Hospital IT got a call asking where the little binder with the DVDs for the CT scanner were from someone in Radiology 'cause the Siemens tech showed up. No, we didn't have them, and they told us they last saw them in the back of a cabinet in their own work era. Turns out those were the unit-specific reload DVDs for half the reconstruction computers and some serial-specific license stuff. Whoopsie...

ssl-3 3mo ago

Eh? It's just a thumb drive, on a lanyard, hanging in a cabinet. It's not like it has guards posted. :) Maybe Joe (from shipping) took it back to his desk to have a squiz at it and try to passively learn something new during some otherwise-downtime and never returned it -- years ago. That cabinet is in his area, so he has the key. Maybe Tim (the plant electrician) borrowed it to get something else done, and it unintentionally disappeared somewhere along the way. Tim has all of the keys for all of the things. Maybe Emily (the ubergeek who prides herself on being able to code her way out of a mess on any system) had it in her office before she got hit by a car and lost the ability to communicate with polysyllabic words. She borrowed Joe's cabinet key after he mentioned an issue. Either way, it was just a thumb drive that had been inside of the cabinet, and now it is gone.

skinfaxi 3mo ago
Things like thumb drives physically connected to cabinets can just disappear in your environment with no followup whatsoever? And that's regular, expected, and desired?
- ssl-3 3mo ago
  So they conduct a formal investigation. Top Men descend upon the facility to figure out whether we blame Joe, or Tim, or Emily. Heads roll. And the thumb drive is still gone, isn't it? --- No, it's not regular. It's not desired. Does shit never go wrong in your world? If not, then: Perhaps you should start expecting it to. :)
- lostlogin 3mo ago
  > Things like thumb drives physically connected to cabinets can just disappear in your environment with no followup whatsoever? Yes. I follow up. No one ever knows. > And that's regular, Yes > expected Yes > and desired? No.

kotaKat 3mo ago

Hospital IT got a call asking where the little binder with the DVDs for the CT scanner were from someone in Radiology 'cause the Siemens tech showed up. No, we didn't have them, and they told us they last saw them in the back of a cabinet in their own work era. Turns out those were the unit-specific reload DVDs for half the reconstruction computers and some serial-specific license stuff. Whoopsie...