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If it's hosted in China, they can tell you whatever you want to hear and do whatever they want to do. What are you going to do? Take a CCP company in front of
by WarmWash 3mo ago
If it's hosted in China, they can tell you whatever you want to hear and do whatever they want to do.
What are you going to do? Take a CCP company in front of a CCP judge?
- jacquesm 3mo agoThey can do the same thing in the US. What are you going to do, sue OpenAI or Anthropic?
- WarmWash 3mo agoWell, yes, because the courts and the AI labs are totally separate entities. If they are doing it to you, they are probably doing it to others, which makes an easy class action
- filterfish 3mo agoIs any class action lawsuit "easy"?
- WarmWash 2mo agoThey lawyers do all the leg work (and keep most of the money), but from the defendant POV it all looks the same.
- resonious 2mo agoAnthropic paid out a lot of money for the copyrighted material they used. (not commenting on whether it was a fair amount - just saying these companies are not immune to lawsuits)
- DiogenesKynikos 3mo agoYou probably could sue them if they really did store your information without your consent. It would be a hassle, but China does have privacy laws. Companies do get sued for violating them.[0] 0. https://www.chinajusticeobserver.com/a/china%E2%80%99s-top-court-defines-legal-boundaries-for-data-rights https://www.chinajusticeobserver.com/a/china%E2%80%99s-top-c...
- WarmWash 3mo agoChina has laws that serve the state, not the individual. They are there for the party to use to prosecute. So you could file, but considering the state is the one responsible for holding the data, and the one that controls the courts, it's not going to go anywhere. Remember China is still an authoritarian dictatorship. One leader with absolute power for life. Don't let the facade misguide you.
- DiogenesKynikos 3mo agoThe case mentioned in the article I linked to involved a private citizen suing a tech company, based on China's GDPR-like laws. He won.
- WarmWash 3mo agoSure, because the state didn't have a stake. Trying suing when it's in the states interest, like it is to build AI datasets on western data. For reference, no case in China has ever been ruled against the government. They don't have things like judges smacking down executive orders or refunding tariffs.