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Can you provide any links that show that every time it’s tried, it fails? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots https://en.wikipedia.org/

by com 2mo ago

Can you provide any links that show that every time it’s tried, it fails? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots Skimming this list, there seems to be one really marked failure, in Finland, but that’s disputed I read also. Can you list more failures?

pitched 2mo ago
This link says very explicitly that it did show people were discouraged from working, making the experiment obviously a failure. > Among all the people, only two key groups were found to be discouraged from working by the Mincome project – new mothers and teenaged boys, who, instead of entering the workforce at an early age, decided to study until grade 12, increasing the proportion of students who graduate high school.
- AshamedBadger56 2mo ago
  Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but neither of those outcomes sound like failures? They sound like a net positive for society. New mothers get to spend more time with their children, which has a ton of societal benefits, and teenaged boys decided to study more, and become more educated, something that also helps society out a lot. I admittedly didn't read the entire link yet, but both of those sound to me like a positive outcome of UBI, or at least neutral.
  - pitched 2mo ago
    It sounds like you understood. I find the disconnect between the summary above and the quote below really funny. Almost as funny as explaining the joke here!
    - dag100 2mo ago
      Really, many jokes of this nature have to be signalled out-of-band somehow due to Poe's law (particularly applicable in this case). I wouldn't be surprised if a non-negligible number of users here actually held this view (due to a variety of reasons and justifications perhaps, but nevertheless still possessing such a perspective).
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Can you provide any links that show that every time it’s tried, it fails? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots https://en.wikipedia.org/

by com 2mo ago

pitched 2mo ago
This link says very explicitly that it did show people were discouraged from working, making the experiment obviously a failure. > Among all the people, only two key groups were found to be discouraged from working by the Mincome project – new mothers and teenaged boys, who, instead of entering the workforce at an early age, decided to study until grade 12, increasing the proportion of students who graduate high school.
- AshamedBadger56 2mo ago
  Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but neither of those outcomes sound like failures? They sound like a net positive for society. New mothers get to spend more time with their children, which has a ton of societal benefits, and teenaged boys decided to study more, and become more educated, something that also helps society out a lot. I admittedly didn't read the entire link yet, but both of those sound to me like a positive outcome of UBI, or at least neutral.
  - pitched 2mo ago
    It sounds like you understood. I find the disconnect between the summary above and the quote below really funny. Almost as funny as explaining the joke here!
    - dag100 2mo ago
      Really, many jokes of this nature have to be signalled out-of-band somehow due to Poe's law (particularly applicable in this case). I wouldn't be surprised if a non-negligible number of users here actually held this view (due to a variety of reasons and justifications perhaps, but nevertheless still possessing such a perspective).
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