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The flip side of this is: Pro: I can use a convoluted process to install an astronomy app Apple didn't like. Con: Billions of dollars of life savings siphoned
by ceejayoz 2mo ago
The flip side of this is:
Pro: I can use a convoluted process to install an astronomy app Apple didn't like.
Con: Billions of dollars of life savings siphoned off with devastating consequences.
I'm by no means a maximalist on either side of this, but technologists aren't the only ones who get a say here.
- iamnothere 2mo agoCorrect. As a side benefit we can restrict users from installing applications that go against other societal interests, like apps that allow unrestricted communications. The framework is complete for mobile devices, we just need to tackle PCs now.
- ceejayoz 2mo agoLoudly dismissing genuine and legitimate concerns may feel good, but it’s not likely to get you what you want, especially at a societal level. I agree with you on the risks of this sort of protection! But I understand what it’s like for non-technical folks in a technical society. Their needs do matter.
- iamnothere 2mo agoYou’re precisely right, and of course there’s no possible way on Earth that we could create a safe way to allow users to install apps outside of the blessed path. No matter how many steps people have to go through, even if they have to pass a special exam to prove their competence, even if they have to sign something that says they could lose their life savings and submit it to a court to document this fact. There’s just not a single possible way to protect people to an adequate degree. That the gatekeeper and government benefit from this arrangement is just a happy accident.
- ceejayoz 2mo agoThere isn’t a way for everyone to be able to do what they want with computing devices and be safe from this shit. That’s the reality. As with most things in society, it’s left to people to negotiate the balance.
- iamnothere 2mo agoGlad you agree that it’s simply impossible to protect most people and have freedom. Hopefully we can extend this approach to other areas of life soon. “Freedom” is overrated anyways!
- ceejayoz 2mo agoWhat freedom on the planet isn't restricted in some way for societal benefit?
- iamnothere 2mo agoI know, right! Here’s hoping we have many more restrictions in the future.
- ceejayoz 2mo agoWhy comment on a site with zero interest in actually interacting with people?
- iamnothere 2mo agoI think there’s probably others reading too.