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Every fifth comment about our insane trajectory of AGI is about "marketing." These incidents and cybersecurity capabilities are now involving government hearing

Every fifth comment about our insane trajectory of AGI is about "marketing." These incidents and cybersecurity capabilities are now involving government hearings and the CIA. Denial is truly an incredible thing in the face of a very scary immediate future.

emp17344 2mo ago
LOL, we’ll see. Awful convenient that it precisely fits OpenAI’s narrative. At the very least, I think it’s obvious OpenAI is explicitly training models to exhibit this behavior.
watwut 2mo ago
The scary thing is complete capture of politics and economy by sociopathic CEOs. I dont worry about AGI newrly as much as about Thiel, Karp, Musk, Ellison, Zuckenberg, Trump, Vance, Rubio, Miller and the rest of them.
Legend2440 2mo ago
A whole ton of people desperately want to believe that LLMs are a lie that will be revealed as a scam... any day now.
- paxys 2mo ago
  Remember that for the longest time the prevailing sentiment on this forum was that there’s no such thing as AI, and labs are just outsourcing the work to a bunch of contractors in India. Just like Reddit you come here for clickbait outrage, not level headed analysis.
- boie0025 2mo ago
  I agree with this assessment. My consulting business partner and I are in the process of moving a bunch of applications from an old deployment managed with Ansible on EC2 over to an ECS deployment. We're doing this app by app, and it's taking a while. The last two apps we both moved we were able to point the model at the appropriate repository and aws account and it was able to execute the entire move on both of these _in one shot_ with various CLI tools. That's not a parlor trick.
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2mo ago
Very disheartening. I just hope people spent some time trying to find bugs with these tools to see how serious this is.
red_green_yell 2mo ago
The gullibility of AGI-pilled folks regarding these "hacks" is just breathtaking. When OAI demonstrates these dangerous capabilities live in a public environment where security experts can see and verify what actually happened, then reasonable people can have reasonable discussions about the level of danger. This is a very low evidence bar. Right now you are running in circles yelling "the sky(net) is falling" based on details sourced entirely from OAI. Oh yeah, no way a trustworthy company like OAI would ever bend the truth to serve their own purposes.
- reducesuffering 2mo ago
  Did you watch the Black Hat defcon talk?
  - Legend2440 2mo ago
    He didn't, and if he did he'd dismiss it as just part of the con.
jackb4040 2mo ago
We live in the era of Project Stargate. We live in the era of military insiders getting caught rigging Polymarket. We live in the era where AI companies are the only reason we're not in a recession. We live in the era of DOGE and Kash Patel. I don't think there's too many people who distrust AI companies but trust the current government or the CIA as impartial authorities. I'm not saying you don't have an argument, but appeals to that specific authority will not be effective except among people who already agree with you.

emp17344 2mo ago

LOL, we’ll see. Awful convenient that it precisely fits OpenAI’s narrative. At the very least, I think it’s obvious OpenAI is explicitly training models to exhibit this behavior.

watwut 2mo ago

The scary thing is complete capture of politics and economy by sociopathic CEOs. I dont worry about AGI newrly as much as about Thiel, Karp, Musk, Ellison, Zuckenberg, Trump, Vance, Rubio, Miller and the rest of them.

Legend2440 2mo ago

A whole ton of people desperately want to believe that LLMs are a lie that will be revealed as a scam... any day now.

paxys 2mo ago
Remember that for the longest time the prevailing sentiment on this forum was that there’s no such thing as AI, and labs are just outsourcing the work to a bunch of contractors in India. Just like Reddit you come here for clickbait outrage, not level headed analysis.
boie0025 2mo ago
I agree with this assessment. My consulting business partner and I are in the process of moving a bunch of applications from an old deployment managed with Ansible on EC2 over to an ECS deployment. We're doing this app by app, and it's taking a while. The last two apps we both moved we were able to point the model at the appropriate repository and aws account and it was able to execute the entire move on both of these _in one shot_ with various CLI tools. That's not a parlor trick.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2mo ago

Very disheartening. I just hope people spent some time trying to find bugs with these tools to see how serious this is.

red_green_yell 2mo ago

The gullibility of AGI-pilled folks regarding these "hacks" is just breathtaking. When OAI demonstrates these dangerous capabilities live in a public environment where security experts can see and verify what actually happened, then reasonable people can have reasonable discussions about the level of danger. This is a very low evidence bar. Right now you are running in circles yelling "the sky(net) is falling" based on details sourced entirely from OAI. Oh yeah, no way a trustworthy company like OAI would ever bend the truth to serve their own purposes.

reducesuffering 2mo ago
Did you watch the Black Hat defcon talk?
- Legend2440 2mo ago
  He didn't, and if he did he'd dismiss it as just part of the con.

jackb4040 2mo ago

We live in the era of Project Stargate. We live in the era of military insiders getting caught rigging Polymarket. We live in the era where AI companies are the only reason we're not in a recession. We live in the era of DOGE and Kash Patel. I don't think there's too many people who distrust AI companies but trust the current government or the CIA as impartial authorities. I'm not saying you don't have an argument, but appeals to that specific authority will not be effective except among people who already agree with you.