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> It’s weird because those who actually care about optimized pg gains are most likely large corporate customers. Why make a product targeting them and license i

> It’s weird because those who actually care about optimized pg gains are most likely large corporate customers. Why make a product targeting them and license it in such a way they’ll never use it? Wait, sorry, you're asking why make something enterprise customers might pay for, and then not give it away to them for free?

insanitybit 2mo ago
It's not that companies won't pay for it, it's that it is banned. Legal teams at these companies set the policy.
- ForHackernews 2mo ago
  The fact that they ban themselves from using the free AGPL license is what makes it possible to sell them a commercial one.
  - insanitybit 2mo ago
    Not really. How would they even evaluate the software? This only works in theory.
    - ForHackernews 2mo ago
      Selling commercial database software to big enterprises seems to work in practice for Oracle.
      - insanitybit 2mo ago
        So the path for open source databases is to have a massive sales team, customer support, POC contracts, etc?
        ForHackernews 2mo ago
        One path for developers who don't want to make a charitable donation to their friendly Fortune 500 is to pick a free software license unpalatable to corporate lawyers and then charge corpos for a commercial dual-license. You are free to volunteer your time to Amazon, no one is stopping you. They would probably accept cash donations as well.
        insanitybit 2mo ago
        I feel like you're just restating the premise, which I'm explaining won't work or at least will see significant challenges. Companies won't touch your software, whether you support a corporate license or not, and you have no way to enter the company because of that license. It's not insurmountable. Lots of companies have been built on AGPL or adjacent licenses. It's just a meaningful hurdle. People can do whatever they want, your framing of "oh just give your money to corporations" is ridiculous as I'm not advocating for anyting like that.
        ForHackernews 2mo ago
        You're advocating for a corporate-friendly zero-money license. I don't know what you want to call that other than "giving away your work to help sponsor enterprise software"
        insanitybit 2mo ago
        I'm not advocating for that at all.

insanitybit 2mo ago

It's not that companies won't pay for it, it's that it is banned. Legal teams at these companies set the policy.

ForHackernews 2mo ago
The fact that they ban themselves from using the free AGPL license is what makes it possible to sell them a commercial one.
- insanitybit 2mo ago
  Not really. How would they even evaluate the software? This only works in theory.
  - ForHackernews 2mo ago
    Selling commercial database software to big enterprises seems to work in practice for Oracle.
    - insanitybit 2mo ago
      So the path for open source databases is to have a massive sales team, customer support, POC contracts, etc?
      - ForHackernews 2mo ago
        One path for developers who don't want to make a charitable donation to their friendly Fortune 500 is to pick a free software license unpalatable to corporate lawyers and then charge corpos for a commercial dual-license. You are free to volunteer your time to Amazon, no one is stopping you. They would probably accept cash donations as well.
        insanitybit 2mo ago
        I feel like you're just restating the premise, which I'm explaining won't work or at least will see significant challenges. Companies won't touch your software, whether you support a corporate license or not, and you have no way to enter the company because of that license. It's not insurmountable. Lots of companies have been built on AGPL or adjacent licenses. It's just a meaningful hurdle. People can do whatever they want, your framing of "oh just give your money to corporations" is ridiculous as I'm not advocating for anyting like that.
        ForHackernews 2mo ago
        You're advocating for a corporate-friendly zero-money license. I don't know what you want to call that other than "giving away your work to help sponsor enterprise software"
        insanitybit 2mo ago
        I'm not advocating for that at all.