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I dislike USA Today. It feels like lowest common denominator fluffy news. Also, I remember staying at a hotel once where they delivered one to every guest room

I dislike USA Today. It feels like lowest common denominator fluffy news. Also, I remember staying at a hotel once where they delivered one to every guest room.

SoftTalker 2mo ago
USA Today is news written for 5th graders. It has always been a waste of time and paper for anyone who really wants to know what's going on.
- micromacrofoot 2mo ago
  The people who can only read at a 5th grade level are precisely the people who need to be more informed about what's going on
  - cindyllm 2mo ago
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  - SoftTalker 2mo ago
    Why? They mostly don't do anything very impactful. Voting and other civic engagement is very low amongst the illiterate.
    - micromacrofoot 2mo ago
      not talking about illiteracy, ~50% of americans read at a 6th grade level or below... that's certainly enough to make an impact, the 2024 election was decided by ~250k votes across 3 states... Michigan specifically has a reading level below national average
      - SoftTalker 2mo ago
        And the percent of eligible citizens who vote is often not much more than 50% in presidential election years (higher recently but not for good reasons). It's even lower in mid-term years. If you're not an engaged, informed person and your worldview is based on USA Today headlines I'd rather you didn't vote.
        micromacrofoot 2mo ago
        well you can enjoy your imaginary world where you get to decide who votes and who doesn't, but I'd rather the people who do exist and vote in the real world read USA Today than nothing at all... we're talking in the area of 100M+ people, remove accessible reading from them and you're left with what? cable news and tiktok?
        hogwasher 2mo ago
        There's enough high quality video and audio news that it's fully possible to be an engaged and informed person even if you can't read for shit. Plus, text-to-speech is very good now. You can listen to written articles as well, even if you can't read them. You still need to evaluate sources and fact check, but that's a separate skill (albeit one most literate people also fail at). I don't believe the literacy rate is a measure of intelligence, when the "three cueing" educational calamity is right there as an obvious explanation. That and Americans just being overworked and exhausted and sick all the time.
pfdietz 2mo ago
https://www.amazon.com/Were-Eating-More-Beets-Trudeau/dp/0805009329 https://www.amazon.com/Were-Eating-More-Beets-Trudeau/dp/080...
bestouff 2mo ago
I didn't see you capitalized the T at first. The sentence was still somehow making sense.
snickerbockers 2mo ago
Im pretty sure I've only ever seen people read usa today when hotels give it away for free with the continental breakfast.
bookofjoe 2mo ago
I stayed at that hotel! I think it was the Peachtree something-or-other in downtown Atlanta, around 1980-85.
bluGill 2mo ago
They always have been. A few times I've read it and I was always disappointed. They are about all that is left though. I keep looking for someone with real reporters who cover my local area and I can't find it. Just big city papers that have an edition for my area but no reporters to dig into local stories.
- snazz 2mo ago
  Does your local NPR station (or even PBS) have local journalists? Obviously their primary formats aren’t written, but my local NPR has a fantastic website also.

I dislike USA Today. It feels like lowest common denominator fluffy news. Also, I remember staying at a hotel once where they delivered one to every guest room.

SoftTalker 2mo ago

USA Today is news written for 5th graders. It has always been a waste of time and paper for anyone who really wants to know what's going on.

micromacrofoot 2mo ago
The people who can only read at a 5th grade level are precisely the people who need to be more informed about what's going on
- cindyllm 2mo ago
  [dead]
- SoftTalker 2mo ago
  Why? They mostly don't do anything very impactful. Voting and other civic engagement is very low amongst the illiterate.
  - micromacrofoot 2mo ago
    not talking about illiteracy, ~50% of americans read at a 6th grade level or below... that's certainly enough to make an impact, the 2024 election was decided by ~250k votes across 3 states... Michigan specifically has a reading level below national average
    - SoftTalker 2mo ago
      And the percent of eligible citizens who vote is often not much more than 50% in presidential election years (higher recently but not for good reasons). It's even lower in mid-term years. If you're not an engaged, informed person and your worldview is based on USA Today headlines I'd rather you didn't vote.
      - micromacrofoot 2mo ago
        well you can enjoy your imaginary world where you get to decide who votes and who doesn't, but I'd rather the people who do exist and vote in the real world read USA Today than nothing at all... we're talking in the area of 100M+ people, remove accessible reading from them and you're left with what? cable news and tiktok?
      - hogwasher 2mo ago
        There's enough high quality video and audio news that it's fully possible to be an engaged and informed person even if you can't read for shit. Plus, text-to-speech is very good now. You can listen to written articles as well, even if you can't read them. You still need to evaluate sources and fact check, but that's a separate skill (albeit one most literate people also fail at). I don't believe the literacy rate is a measure of intelligence, when the "three cueing" educational calamity is right there as an obvious explanation. That and Americans just being overworked and exhausted and sick all the time.

pfdietz 2mo ago

https://www.amazon.com/Were-Eating-More-Beets-Trudeau/dp/0805009329 https://www.amazon.com/Were-Eating-More-Beets-Trudeau/dp/080...

bestouff 2mo ago

I didn't see you capitalized the T at first. The sentence was still somehow making sense.

snickerbockers 2mo ago

Im pretty sure I've only ever seen people read usa today when hotels give it away for free with the continental breakfast.

bookofjoe 2mo ago

I stayed at that hotel! I think it was the Peachtree something-or-other in downtown Atlanta, around 1980-85.

bluGill 2mo ago

They always have been. A few times I've read it and I was always disappointed. They are about all that is left though. I keep looking for someone with real reporters who cover my local area and I can't find it. Just big city papers that have an edition for my area but no reporters to dig into local stories.

snazz 2mo ago
Does your local NPR station (or even PBS) have local journalists? Obviously their primary formats aren’t written, but my local NPR has a fantastic website also.