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I mean I can't have much sympathy here, it's Texas. They voted for this.

csh0 2mo ago
Texas is not a monolith. The people who are decrying this action are local conservation groups and activists. These are not necessarily the same people who voted to put the current administration in power. To simply write this off as “they deserve it” would be a mistake, and is unproductive.
- serf 2mo ago
  Great, I'm glad we settled this once and for all this so that I don't have to shoulder any more blame from Europeans about trump being president.
- halJordan 2mo ago
  But they are the same group. Part of a democracy is that when the group decides, the group accepts the decision. Of course there can always be dissent, and no group is a monolith. But the fact is Texans voted for this. If Texans didn't want this they wouldn't have it.
bombas 2mo ago
It’s a National Park doofus, we should all be angry
bdcravens 2mo ago
A majority did, but Texas isn't unified politically. There's actually more blue voters in Texas than in many "blue" states. (And the inverse is true in California)
- teach 2mo ago
  "Texas isn't a red state; it's a gerrymandered one." - a pre-LLM aphorism
frankharv 2mo ago
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- officeplant 2mo ago
  >The article said 10,000 people Illegally Crossed the border in this region. And? Good for them on making it through. People will continue to cross the boarder because the shitty wall isn't going to stop people.
- bigtex88 2mo ago
  Who cares?
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- bathtub365 2mo ago
  Is that an exceptional number?
- almog 2mo ago
  1. From the article: > During the first nine months of fiscal 2026 (October through June), authorities recorded 1,509 encounters, down from 10,291 during the same period in fiscal 2023, a decline of about 85 percent. 10k was the number recorded 3 years ago, it's been down significantly regardless of whether a wall exists or not. 2. These numbers aren't specific to Big Bend NP itself but rather to the much larger Big Bend Sector (the border contained within the park is but ~22% of these 517 miles [1]): >The figures cover the entire Big Bend Sector, which is wider than the park itself and spans roughly 517 miles of the border. There are no figures as to how many of the people recorded illegally crossing even used the NP part of Big Bend Sector. Add to that the fact that the NP terrain is far more difficult to walk through than the surrounding sector and it's quite easy to see that the number of recorded illegal crossing from within the NP itself are likely to at least an order of magnitude smaller than these figures. [1] - https://home.nps.gov/bibe/planyourvisit/border_travel.htm https://home.nps.gov/bibe/planyourvisit/border_travel.htm
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tapvt 2mo ago
Highly unproductive to write off the entirety of Texas like this. Have you visited Brewster or Presidio County, where this is happening, or spoken with the people who live there? Big Bend is treasured by Texans across the political spectrum. I know nobody who is happy about this, regardless of how they vote. Environmentalists, ranchers, locals in general, strongly oppose this action by the Federal gov't. The destruction in Big Bend is at the direction of folks who have never set foot there. It is not necessary. Just staying alive in that environment is difficult enough to deter mass migration. The existing River Road provides enough access, and probably some good vantage points (I'm not a border security expert).
- goatlover 2mo ago
  Whatever happened to states rights? This Texas we're talking about, nobody living there wants this.

csh0 2mo ago

Texas is not a monolith. The people who are decrying this action are local conservation groups and activists. These are not necessarily the same people who voted to put the current administration in power. To simply write this off as “they deserve it” would be a mistake, and is unproductive.

serf 2mo ago
Great, I'm glad we settled this once and for all this so that I don't have to shoulder any more blame from Europeans about trump being president.
halJordan 2mo ago
But they are the same group. Part of a democracy is that when the group decides, the group accepts the decision. Of course there can always be dissent, and no group is a monolith. But the fact is Texans voted for this. If Texans didn't want this they wouldn't have it.

bombas 2mo ago

It’s a National Park doofus, we should all be angry

bdcravens 2mo ago

A majority did, but Texas isn't unified politically. There's actually more blue voters in Texas than in many "blue" states. (And the inverse is true in California)

teach 2mo ago
"Texas isn't a red state; it's a gerrymandered one." - a pre-LLM aphorism

frankharv 2mo ago

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officeplant 2mo ago
>The article said 10,000 people Illegally Crossed the border in this region. And? Good for them on making it through. People will continue to cross the boarder because the shitty wall isn't going to stop people.
bigtex88 2mo ago
Who cares?
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bathtub365 2mo ago
Is that an exceptional number?
almog 2mo ago
1. From the article: > During the first nine months of fiscal 2026 (October through June), authorities recorded 1,509 encounters, down from 10,291 during the same period in fiscal 2023, a decline of about 85 percent. 10k was the number recorded 3 years ago, it's been down significantly regardless of whether a wall exists or not. 2. These numbers aren't specific to Big Bend NP itself but rather to the much larger Big Bend Sector (the border contained within the park is but ~22% of these 517 miles [1]): >The figures cover the entire Big Bend Sector, which is wider than the park itself and spans roughly 517 miles of the border. There are no figures as to how many of the people recorded illegally crossing even used the NP part of Big Bend Sector. Add to that the fact that the NP terrain is far more difficult to walk through than the surrounding sector and it's quite easy to see that the number of recorded illegal crossing from within the NP itself are likely to at least an order of magnitude smaller than these figures. [1] - https://home.nps.gov/bibe/planyourvisit/border_travel.htm https://home.nps.gov/bibe/planyourvisit/border_travel.htm
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tapvt 2mo ago

Highly unproductive to write off the entirety of Texas like this. Have you visited Brewster or Presidio County, where this is happening, or spoken with the people who live there? Big Bend is treasured by Texans across the political spectrum. I know nobody who is happy about this, regardless of how they vote. Environmentalists, ranchers, locals in general, strongly oppose this action by the Federal gov't. The destruction in Big Bend is at the direction of folks who have never set foot there. It is not necessary. Just staying alive in that environment is difficult enough to deter mass migration. The existing River Road provides enough access, and probably some good vantage points (I'm not a border security expert).

goatlover 2mo ago
Whatever happened to states rights? This Texas we're talking about, nobody living there wants this.