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Cost, size, weight, and power are definitely things that can be improved on. The atomic clocks you can buy for a lab are big 3U boxes but shrinking it down to s
by wildzzz 2mo ago
Cost, size, weight, and power are definitely things that can be improved on. The atomic clocks you can buy for a lab are big 3U boxes but shrinking it down to something portable is the future.
I actually work with one of those chip scale atomic clocks. The goal is to put it in space. If you need precise timing in space, the current state is to lock to a GPS reference clock (just for timing, don't care about position), train an OCXO, and let it drift for a day or two before you require GPS again. OCXOs (and crystal oscillators in general) can be very accurate but the stability is easily affected by temperature swings. So as your satellite goes in and out of the sunlight or as components inside turn on and off, the surrounding temperature changes and can make the clock drift. This isn't a problem on earth since you can always have a GPS receiver running but on a power constrained satellite, this is not ideal. The CSAC gets 100x better thermal stability than even some of the best space-qualified OCXOs. This means you could potentially run for 100x longer before you need to reacquire GPS, assuming the same environment and performance requirements. The CSAC also has a brain inside so potentially you can do all of your characterization on the ground and not even need a GPS receiver onboard. It also requires much less time to become stable after powering on than a normal crystal oscillator.
You get the same benefits on the ground, super precise timing for the processors and modems without necessarily needing a GPS receiver. The modern assumption (and pretty much proven in Ukraine) is that GPS will be completely unavailable on a battlefield. Anything portable or battery-powered will likely not be able to make use of newer anti-jam features of GPS (very power hungry) so you need something small, precise, and quick to come online.
Modern waveforms often require very tight timing to properly demodulate so having a pocket sized atomic clock solves a lot of problems.
- inigyou 2mo agoWhere are you getting GPS receivers that work in space?
- AlotOfReading 2mo agoProbably one of the numerous companies making qualified receivers? E.g. [0]. There's even a published table comparing basically all of them [1]. [0] https://www.aac-clyde.space/what-we-do/space-products-components/adcs/gnss-701 https://www.aac-clyde.space/what-we-do/space-products-compon... [1] https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/23/17/7648#app1-sensors-23-07648 https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/23/17/7648#app1-sensors-23-07...
- snypher 2mo agoSo that poster asked where to get blue carrots, and you replied 'probably one of the numerous companies making blue carrots?'. It seems they were unaware of these products, you don't have to be fake incredulous about it.
- dyauspitr 2mo agoA little bit of hostility is healthy to an incredibly basic question like that. Plus I’ve encountered that user a few times, it’s always the same tier of asinine comment.
- goodmythical 2mo agoI'm always astounded by this particular activity. If you're curious about the existence of a thing, the activity required is typing some such "where can I get". But you could type that in a search bar and be gauranteed an immediate result or type it in a comment section and possibly get a definitely delayed result. I suppose the interaction could be the point, but if the curiosity is the only factor, why choose the comment section?
- dyauspitr 2mo agoIt’s almost always a secondary motivation on forums, someone with an agenda trying to undermine the GP in some attempted subtle way that’s not immediately apparent to most casual browsers.
- wildzzz 2mo agoGeneral Dynamics, for example, makes them. https://gdmissionsystems.com/communications/spaceborne-communications-and-electronics/spaceborne-gps-receivers https://gdmissionsystems.com/communications/spaceborne-commu...