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Eh, if anything, "human built drab concrete environments" is exactly what graffiti should cover and be used to fight, add a bit of color to life. Don't like it?

Eh, if anything, "human built drab concrete environments" is exactly what graffiti should cover and be used to fight, add a bit of color to life. Don't like it? Don't make it so boring and dull in the first place. People who graffiti trees, stones and other natural elements are fucking cunts though, ruining nature's art with their shitty tags, that's really horrible behavior.

rayiner 2mo ago
Lots of people like the clean, subdued aesthetic. If they wanted "color" that's what they'd build. It's not for taggers to decide how much or little "color" a city should have.
- embedding-shape 2mo ago
  > Lots of people like the clean, subdued aesthetic And lots of people feels like it's a oppressive aesthetic. Not sure I've ever heard the concrete jungles of a city called "clean and subdued aesthetic", so cheers for this new perspective! The very same counter-culture that likes to color things, is also partly about breaking the rules, so here we are :)
  - rayiner 2mo ago
    > And lots of people feels like it's an oppressive aesthetic. And when they’re in charge they can decorate however they want. They don’t get to impose their aesthetic preferences on public spaces without consent. > Not sure I've ever heard the concrete jungles of a city called "clean and subdued aesthetic" “Clean City” is literally the name of São Paulo’s anti-visual pollution law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidade_Limpa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidade_Limpa > The very same counter-culture that likes to color things, is also partly about breaking the rules Of course they hate the rules. The rules are there to protect normal people from them.
    - embedding-shape 2mo ago
      Fitting page :) > The implementation of the law was controversial. The advertising industry took it worst. Many of the graffiti images which had brought the city an international reputation for artistic innovation were destroyed and others badly damaged, including the officially approved 680-meter-long mural painted by the grafiteiros Os Gêmeos, Nunca and Nina along the 23 de Maio expressway. At the same time the artists' work was being celebrated in the Street Art exhibition at Tate Modern Gallery in London, with large-scale works by Os Gêmeos and Nunca decorating the Tate Modern's external walls. This international recognition of the significance of the artists' work led to a re-evaluation in São Paulo of the importance of street art and the impact of the law. Following a public debate on the subject of what constituted art a registry of street art in São Paulo meriting protection was established by the city. I'm glad to hear they managed to find a good balance between forbidding advertisement (which the intent of the law seems to be about, not more general "anti-visual pollution") and keeping celebrated artist's artwork around instead of destroying it.
    - gamblor956 2mo ago
      They don’t get to impose their aesthetic preferences on public spaces without consent. That's literally what you're trying to do. Demand that skate parks remain static and unchanged, even though the actual users of the skate parks prefer otherwise.

rayiner 2mo ago

Lots of people like the clean, subdued aesthetic. If they wanted "color" that's what they'd build. It's not for taggers to decide how much or little "color" a city should have.

embedding-shape 2mo ago
> Lots of people like the clean, subdued aesthetic And lots of people feels like it's a oppressive aesthetic. Not sure I've ever heard the concrete jungles of a city called "clean and subdued aesthetic", so cheers for this new perspective! The very same counter-culture that likes to color things, is also partly about breaking the rules, so here we are :)
- rayiner 2mo ago
  > And lots of people feels like it's an oppressive aesthetic. And when they’re in charge they can decorate however they want. They don’t get to impose their aesthetic preferences on public spaces without consent. > Not sure I've ever heard the concrete jungles of a city called "clean and subdued aesthetic" “Clean City” is literally the name of São Paulo’s anti-visual pollution law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidade_Limpa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidade_Limpa > The very same counter-culture that likes to color things, is also partly about breaking the rules Of course they hate the rules. The rules are there to protect normal people from them.
  - embedding-shape 2mo ago
    Fitting page :) > The implementation of the law was controversial. The advertising industry took it worst. Many of the graffiti images which had brought the city an international reputation for artistic innovation were destroyed and others badly damaged, including the officially approved 680-meter-long mural painted by the grafiteiros Os Gêmeos, Nunca and Nina along the 23 de Maio expressway. At the same time the artists' work was being celebrated in the Street Art exhibition at Tate Modern Gallery in London, with large-scale works by Os Gêmeos and Nunca decorating the Tate Modern's external walls. This international recognition of the significance of the artists' work led to a re-evaluation in São Paulo of the importance of street art and the impact of the law. Following a public debate on the subject of what constituted art a registry of street art in São Paulo meriting protection was established by the city. I'm glad to hear they managed to find a good balance between forbidding advertisement (which the intent of the law seems to be about, not more general "anti-visual pollution") and keeping celebrated artist's artwork around instead of destroying it.
  - gamblor956 2mo ago
    They don’t get to impose their aesthetic preferences on public spaces without consent. That's literally what you're trying to do. Demand that skate parks remain static and unchanged, even though the actual users of the skate parks prefer otherwise.