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i still use rememberthemilk for this purpose. once you get used to all the keyboard shortcuts on their site it becomes a second nature to rock your list.. i lov

i still use rememberthemilk for this purpose. once you get used to all the keyboard shortcuts on their site it becomes a second nature to rock your list.. i love that i can "u" to add url, or "d" to add/remove a date.. j,k to navigate, 1,2,3 to prioritize, email into my inbox, and make some of my lists public. i suppose Trello would be better geared if your lists were shared among multiple people, as that's more of their domain

rsobers 14y ago
I like rememberthemilk too. Trello seems to work well for visual people (that's me). As Merlin Mann says, the second your tools start being fun, you've gone too far. The key thing is the process: making a contract with yourself to do the work and then defining small physical tasks that you'll actually do.
gecko 14y ago
I love both Trello and Remember the Milk, using them for different purposes, but keyboard shortcuts shouldn't be one of your reasons for one tool versus the other. Both tools allow you to specify most of the information you want right at construction time (e.g., <N> "Remember the milk #groceries ^Soon ^1" <RET>, makes a new card, labels it Groceries, and puts it at position 1 in the "Soon" list--basically the same as RTM's <C> "Remember the milk #groceries !1" <RET>). Both tools let you search from the keyboard ("F" for Trello, "/" for RTM). Both let you assign due dates from the keyboard, with "D". Both let clear out cards from the keyboard, with "C" for Trello, "XC" for RTM. Noticing a pattern here? I love RTM, and I think there are good reasons for using it, but keyboard shortcuts shouldn't be one of them.
- SonicSoul 14y ago
  i guess that depends what is important to you. I highly value being able to skip the mouse. this is also my #1 feature of gmail, and biggest gripe with Outlook (it has most keyboard support but some is missing or hard to remember intuitively). Thanks for the good tip about construction! Often times though, items are managed after creation and that's where keyboard support comes in handy for me.
  - gecko 14y ago
    I think I'm missing something. Most of those shortcuts I gave are post-creation. You can use Trello fully from the keyboard; is there something specific not available that's bugging you?
    - SonicSoul 14y ago
      my bad. not as familiar with Trello but if it has a full navigation support via keyboard than should be as quick to use as RTM. Fogcreek guys are very smart so I'm sure that implementation is a pleasure to work with. Did you switch to Trello for GTD stuff?
bosie 14y ago
what put me off RTM is the list/project management. one list per project is fine but how do you get subprojects? how do you quickly create lists? how do you quickly set a list to "complete"? never been able to figure those questions out, would appreciate it if you could help me. thanks.
- gecko 14y ago
  I usually handle subprojects by having tags to go with the list, and optionally using a smart list to aggregate if need be.
  - bosie 14y ago
    so for each project you have to manually add lists? (Settings > Lists > Add List) that smart list is a manual creation as well? that seems a lot of work compared to e.g. Omnifocus

rsobers 14y ago

I like rememberthemilk too. Trello seems to work well for visual people (that's me). As Merlin Mann says, the second your tools start being fun, you've gone too far. The key thing is the process: making a contract with yourself to do the work and then defining small physical tasks that you'll actually do.

gecko 14y ago

I love both Trello and Remember the Milk, using them for different purposes, but keyboard shortcuts shouldn't be one of your reasons for one tool versus the other. Both tools allow you to specify most of the information you want right at construction time (e.g., <N> "Remember the milk #groceries ^Soon ^1" <RET>, makes a new card, labels it Groceries, and puts it at position 1 in the "Soon" list--basically the same as RTM's <C> "Remember the milk #groceries !1" <RET>). Both tools let you search from the keyboard ("F" for Trello, "/" for RTM). Both let you assign due dates from the keyboard, with "D". Both let clear out cards from the keyboard, with "C" for Trello, "XC" for RTM. Noticing a pattern here? I love RTM, and I think there are good reasons for using it, but keyboard shortcuts shouldn't be one of them.

SonicSoul 14y ago
i guess that depends what is important to you. I highly value being able to skip the mouse. this is also my #1 feature of gmail, and biggest gripe with Outlook (it has most keyboard support but some is missing or hard to remember intuitively). Thanks for the good tip about construction! Often times though, items are managed after creation and that's where keyboard support comes in handy for me.
- gecko 14y ago
  I think I'm missing something. Most of those shortcuts I gave are post-creation. You can use Trello fully from the keyboard; is there something specific not available that's bugging you?
  - SonicSoul 14y ago
    my bad. not as familiar with Trello but if it has a full navigation support via keyboard than should be as quick to use as RTM. Fogcreek guys are very smart so I'm sure that implementation is a pleasure to work with. Did you switch to Trello for GTD stuff?

bosie 14y ago

what put me off RTM is the list/project management. one list per project is fine but how do you get subprojects? how do you quickly create lists? how do you quickly set a list to "complete"? never been able to figure those questions out, would appreciate it if you could help me. thanks.

gecko 14y ago
I usually handle subprojects by having tags to go with the list, and optionally using a smart list to aggregate if need be.
- bosie 14y ago
  so for each project you have to manually add lists? (Settings > Lists > Add List) that smart list is a manual creation as well? that seems a lot of work compared to e.g. Omnifocus