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I would like to read "actual" LLM fiction in the same sense I would like to read fiction from a lion. I wonder if that kind of alien writing is even possible wi

I would like to read "actual" LLM fiction in the same sense I would like to read fiction from a lion. I wonder if that kind of alien writing is even possible with this kind of technology. The RL process would have to be quite different at least and even then it is still using human content as the base. Anyone seen any good or even decent or OK fiction of this type?

j4yav 2mo ago
Whenever people say they like AI music or fiction, I've only ever been able to determine they are something like the equivalent of people with no taste buds describing how delicious the gruel is.
- JohnFen 2mo ago
  A little disclaimer before the rest of my comment: I think machine-generated art (fine art, anyway. Commercial and functional art have different nuances) is objectionable. Many people with fully-functional taste buds genuinely find gruel delicious. Oatmeal is a variety of gruel. People like what they like and aren't ever "wrong" for having their own tastes. I think claiming that other people have no or bad taste isn't really a supportable stance. It's totally valid to say that someone doesn't share your tastes, but not that either of you are right or wrong for having those tastes. Also, tangentially related, you know that cliche "the customer is always right"? That's only the first half of the sentence that is a quote of. The second half is "in matters of taste". The reason the cliche is obviously wrong is because it omits that.
bananaflag 2mo ago
I would have loved that too but that is quite impossible in this paradigm. Probably the way people in the 20th century envisioned AGI rising out of GOFAI (also quite impossible in its own way) would have produced an "alien" entity with the properties you desire
x1n13y84issmd42 2mo ago
One of my favorite childhoods stories was told from a perspective of an arctic fox. It wasn’t a cartoonish “Lion King” type of story but pretty serious and mature stuff.
- amberjack 2mo ago
  Reading your comment I suddenly remembered the existence of Stephen Baxter's Mammoth Trilogy. No idea if it is any good but I should probably try reading it.

j4yav 2mo ago

Whenever people say they like AI music or fiction, I've only ever been able to determine they are something like the equivalent of people with no taste buds describing how delicious the gruel is.

JohnFen 2mo ago
A little disclaimer before the rest of my comment: I think machine-generated art (fine art, anyway. Commercial and functional art have different nuances) is objectionable. Many people with fully-functional taste buds genuinely find gruel delicious. Oatmeal is a variety of gruel. People like what they like and aren't ever "wrong" for having their own tastes. I think claiming that other people have no or bad taste isn't really a supportable stance. It's totally valid to say that someone doesn't share your tastes, but not that either of you are right or wrong for having those tastes. Also, tangentially related, you know that cliche "the customer is always right"? That's only the first half of the sentence that is a quote of. The second half is "in matters of taste". The reason the cliche is obviously wrong is because it omits that.

bananaflag 2mo ago

I would have loved that too but that is quite impossible in this paradigm. Probably the way people in the 20th century envisioned AGI rising out of GOFAI (also quite impossible in its own way) would have produced an "alien" entity with the properties you desire

x1n13y84issmd42 2mo ago

One of my favorite childhoods stories was told from a perspective of an arctic fox. It wasn’t a cartoonish “Lion King” type of story but pretty serious and mature stuff.

amberjack 2mo ago
Reading your comment I suddenly remembered the existence of Stephen Baxter's Mammoth Trilogy. No idea if it is any good but I should probably try reading it.