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Can you explain what you mean by a maintenance measure for your jaw shape? Is the idea.. a jaw workout?

by hkt 2mo ago

4gotunameagain 2mo ago
It's the new gen Z and younger thing, micro-optimise your appearance. Outcome of chronic social media exposure.
- rustystump 2mo ago
  it originated way earlier as a way to help people who have naturally small nasal passages. i guess both mewing and chewing help widen passages. The book breath goes into details but from the perspective of health and not looks. This has been known for like 100 years but mostly dentists payed attention to it. The fact is mewing and chewing do make a measurable difference…over time. Tiktok promotes extremes as they get more views and the more extreme the more views in a cycle of escalation. This gave birth to sad boys who see the Toyota chivalre’s and think they need the same jawline. Similar sad nonsense has been going on for women too but that has unfortunately become all but normalized.
  - kevin_thibedeau 2mo ago
    > Similar sad nonsense It's amazing how they normalized fillers to the point of being hideous and convinced themselves that that's a beautiful aesthetic. The consensus seeking hive mind at work.
    - scantron4 2mo ago
      Thats also partially because they were told fillers dissolve and to keep getting them, when actually fillers migrate and continue to absorb water and grow, leading to puffy "pillow face".
code_biologist 2mo ago
The looksmaxxing thing is a real reason mastic gum as a jaw workout is promoted. Won't deny that. My use of it comes from early 2010s era paleo-food community observations about hunter gatherers having less crowded jaws than agriculturalist and modern peoples, hypothesized to be due to both micronutrient intake and also eating tougher foods. Cramped jaws and facial structures lead to both malocclusion and also nasal breathing issues, and mouth breathing also reinforces those pathological facial changes. Granted, this stuff is from sources that I've heard wildly varying opinions on (Weston A Price; Mike Mew). Jaw and facial structure continues to change into adulthood. I needed extensive orthodontics in my youth and have struggled with sleep apnea in adulthood. This broad set of hypotheses made sense to me, and chewing mastic gum was the easiest way to get a full dose of "chew tougher food" in my life. I try to snack on raw carrots too. Speaking to attractiveness, there's an uncomfortable photo of identical twins in one of the Weston Price books, one given orthodontic treatment that widened their facial structure and one was not. The one with the widened facial structure was more attractive. The difference wasn't gigantic, but it wasn't small either.
- taurusnoises 2mo ago
  I'm just hear to commiserate with the only person I've come across online in decades mentioning Weston A Price and his book of dental studies, which no doubt dates us. (The side-by-side jaw images left an impression on me as well). I'm guessing you were also part of the Price to Nourishing Traditions cookbook pipeline? Everyone I knew had at least the cookbooks back in the day.
- sriacha 2mo ago
  The book mentioned is 'Nutrition and Physical Degeneration', online version: https://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html https://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc... Highly recommended, at minimum for interesting historical look at various cultures with a pre-modern processed food diet. AFAIK the basic hypothesis about diet affecting face morphology holds up.

Can you explain what you mean by a maintenance measure for your jaw shape? Is the idea.. a jaw workout?

by hkt 2mo ago

Can you explain what you mean by a maintenance measure for your jaw shape? Is the idea.. a jaw workout?

4gotunameagain 2mo ago

It's the new gen Z and younger thing, micro-optimise your appearance. Outcome of chronic social media exposure.

rustystump 2mo ago
it originated way earlier as a way to help people who have naturally small nasal passages. i guess both mewing and chewing help widen passages. The book breath goes into details but from the perspective of health and not looks. This has been known for like 100 years but mostly dentists payed attention to it. The fact is mewing and chewing do make a measurable difference…over time. Tiktok promotes extremes as they get more views and the more extreme the more views in a cycle of escalation. This gave birth to sad boys who see the Toyota chivalre’s and think they need the same jawline. Similar sad nonsense has been going on for women too but that has unfortunately become all but normalized.
- kevin_thibedeau 2mo ago
  > Similar sad nonsense It's amazing how they normalized fillers to the point of being hideous and convinced themselves that that's a beautiful aesthetic. The consensus seeking hive mind at work.
  - scantron4 2mo ago
    Thats also partially because they were told fillers dissolve and to keep getting them, when actually fillers migrate and continue to absorb water and grow, leading to puffy "pillow face".

code_biologist 2mo ago

The looksmaxxing thing is a real reason mastic gum as a jaw workout is promoted. Won't deny that. My use of it comes from early 2010s era paleo-food community observations about hunter gatherers having less crowded jaws than agriculturalist and modern peoples, hypothesized to be due to both micronutrient intake and also eating tougher foods. Cramped jaws and facial structures lead to both malocclusion and also nasal breathing issues, and mouth breathing also reinforces those pathological facial changes. Granted, this stuff is from sources that I've heard wildly varying opinions on (Weston A Price; Mike Mew). Jaw and facial structure continues to change into adulthood. I needed extensive orthodontics in my youth and have struggled with sleep apnea in adulthood. This broad set of hypotheses made sense to me, and chewing mastic gum was the easiest way to get a full dose of "chew tougher food" in my life. I try to snack on raw carrots too. Speaking to attractiveness, there's an uncomfortable photo of identical twins in one of the Weston Price books, one given orthodontic treatment that widened their facial structure and one was not. The one with the widened facial structure was more attractive. The difference wasn't gigantic, but it wasn't small either.

taurusnoises 2mo ago
I'm just hear to commiserate with the only person I've come across online in decades mentioning Weston A Price and his book of dental studies, which no doubt dates us. (The side-by-side jaw images left an impression on me as well). I'm guessing you were also part of the Price to Nourishing Traditions cookbook pipeline? Everyone I knew had at least the cookbooks back in the day.
sriacha 2mo ago
The book mentioned is 'Nutrition and Physical Degeneration', online version: https://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html https://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc... Highly recommended, at minimum for interesting historical look at various cultures with a pre-modern processed food diet. AFAIK the basic hypothesis about diet affecting face morphology holds up.