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Love the energy, but I can hardly believe the title "Proven Metals" because your website does not stand up to basic scrutiny: 1) First issue: I do not know wha

Love the energy, but I can hardly believe the title "Proven Metals" because your website does not stand up to basic scrutiny: 1) First issue: I do not know what your manufacturing constraints are for PCBs...the number of layers is not documented. I don't even know if you support FlexPCBs. 2) I suppose I could figure out if you could make my boards in seven days if I played your upload game...but I should have to do that. Even the following site, with its clunky UI, makes it more clear what they can or can't do: https://quickturnpcb.co.kr/ https://quickturnpcb.co.kr/ 3) You say you ship "tested" boards, but what does that mean? Firmware testing? Emissions testing? If you ultimately choose the MPNs, does that mean you own the failures if the board doesn't come up? 4) It's not clear if you accept consigned parts. It's not even clear if you are properly storing the parts you are kitting with respect MSL, ESD, etc. 5) In the end, what makes you any different from a typical broker like Millenium Circuits Limited? (Not that I am endorsing them, as I have had terrible experience from them as well) 6) If you are owning testing and promising quick turnarounds, I would assume you are actually shipping test fixtures to the CM before they ship so they can rework if necessary. But again unclear from your description

willcarkner 2mo ago
1) Well noted, we are working on fixing that 2) Agreed, fixed with 1) 3) We should be more clear about testing. We offer a range of tests (in house x-ray, functional, bring-up) that we should show more clearly. 4) This will be made more clear on the site 5) We don't aim to be a broker in the end. We aim to own the whole stack. This is how we start. 6) True, we do in-house testing and rework, which should be more clear on the site.
- codehero 2mo ago
  I looked at your site again and see you made changes. Stop working so fast, it's actually hurting your presentation pretty badly. I see "We make PCBs fast". I suppose it may mean something to the layman, but to me it just means you do what 4PCB does, except not in 24 hrs like they do. But never mind about determining turn time. When I click that I only see a single time listed (5 days). But if I look at the top of the screen I see another turn time of 7 days. Just stop working on this site for 3-4 days and get your mission statement together. Maybe put some pictures of actual test fixtures if you test boards or any of your rework equipment. Every PCB/PCBA shop out there puts rework videos on its 'gram. It's just really hard to understand your business with this edgy/terse hustler kind of talk. Or your careers page where I get the sense that move fast and break things is the backend philosophy. Not a good look for someone who wants PCBs fast. I so want this to work but holy cow I can't even understand where you guys are coming from.

willcarkner 2mo ago

1) Well noted, we are working on fixing that 2) Agreed, fixed with 1) 3) We should be more clear about testing. We offer a range of tests (in house x-ray, functional, bring-up) that we should show more clearly. 4) This will be made more clear on the site 5) We don't aim to be a broker in the end. We aim to own the whole stack. This is how we start. 6) True, we do in-house testing and rework, which should be more clear on the site.

codehero 2mo ago
I looked at your site again and see you made changes. Stop working so fast, it's actually hurting your presentation pretty badly. I see "We make PCBs fast". I suppose it may mean something to the layman, but to me it just means you do what 4PCB does, except not in 24 hrs like they do. But never mind about determining turn time. When I click that I only see a single time listed (5 days). But if I look at the top of the screen I see another turn time of 7 days. Just stop working on this site for 3-4 days and get your mission statement together. Maybe put some pictures of actual test fixtures if you test boards or any of your rework equipment. Every PCB/PCBA shop out there puts rework videos on its 'gram. It's just really hard to understand your business with this edgy/terse hustler kind of talk. Or your careers page where I get the sense that move fast and break things is the backend philosophy. Not a good look for someone who wants PCBs fast. I so want this to work but holy cow I can't even understand where you guys are coming from.