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I typed wrong I mean I don't see how they will beat google. Google is the only true vertically integrated AI company meaning they own price at the bottom margin

I typed wrong I mean I don't see how they will beat google. Google is the only true vertically integrated AI company meaning they own price at the bottom margins with their own chips and models made just for them.

ekidd 2mo ago
Google's public AI model lineup is pretty bad right now. Gemini 3.1 Pro is scoring worse than some mid-sized Chinese models at 1/20th the cost, and their Flash and Flash Light models are horrendously overpriced on task benchmarks compared to GPT 5.6 Luna or the mid-sized Chinese models. There's no reason why Google's public stuff is this stale, overpriced and underwhelming. But at least until their next round of models drops, even calling them a "frontier lab" is starting to feel like a stretch. Which is weird!
- willy_k 2mo ago
  That doesn’t matter very much for the free tier market though. The game is to have something useable that is actually used, and that can be offered at sustainable margins. Google has significant advantages in those regards.
- eru 2mo ago
  It's interesting that Google fell behind before and managed to get back up to the frontier. But, boy, is their performance in this race uneven. Especially considering that in the 2010s they were The Big AI company, especially after buying out boutique shops like DeepMind.
- m77 2mo ago
  Its good for Google to signal to all the dicks on Youtube and elsewhere that they do not compete with anyone.