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That’s no excuse. Particularly if it affects people self hosting their workers. These are folks that routinely make it a point to press on system design and sc

by sharts 2mo ago

That’s no excuse. Particularly if it affects people self hosting their workers. These are folks that routinely make it a point to press on system design and scalability during interviews. Now they suddenly can’t scale or design systems but we should accept that?

shimman 2mo ago
They don't hire well at all. You look at who is on their research team and it's people with social science PHDs, not computer science. Looking at the state of the site it's not a surprise. Highly incompetent people have taken over for a while. Let's not forget a member of the original executive team was a sex pest too. For like 10 years the only feature development they did was by stealing ideas from GitLab. I wouldn't be shocked if little if none engineering discipline has took place at all during this time if it's this brittle to frequent change. Guessing it was mostly held together with duct tape and poorly written tests/monitoring systems if any other corporate driven software. We're really going to find out over the next few years which businesses have good practices or not.
HeWhoLurksLate 2mo ago
Even if their actions running servers were at 50% load (or even 20%) at the end of 2025, they'd be screwed right now, at this point it's as much a tech/scaling problem as it is a CapEx problem and a construction one. Given the public's responses to AI specific datacenters you can't pick everything. Even my own systems at home are burgeoning under the load of the my more ambitious hobby projects I'm doing for fun. I don't envy "we had to build five more datacenters to keep up with demand" class problems just from a how many people have to sign off on them perspective let alone the technical difficulty of doing so
habinero 2mo ago
Are you kidding? That's an insane amount of load increase to manage. "Scalability" isn't one thing, especially not at that level, so it's ridiculous to knock them for it. That amount of load ripples across your entire infrastructure.
- shimman 2mo ago
  They have the backing of a trillion dollar corporation and can literally hire some of the best talent on the planet. People nor budgets are an issue here. Why do we keep giving excuses to poor engineering disciplines + poor management? This problem is entirely GitHub's making and acting like it's some unplanned natural disaster is low key pathetic.
- pdimitar 2mo ago
  Not hiring 20-25 year olds with social science Ph.D.-s would be a good start (don't remember where I saw that a while ago). Next: proficient engineering managers, not just people who immediately bend a knee to the middle manager. Oh wait, I went into sci-fi territory again. My bad.

by sharts 2mo ago

shimman 2mo ago

They don't hire well at all. You look at who is on their research team and it's people with social science PHDs, not computer science. Looking at the state of the site it's not a surprise. Highly incompetent people have taken over for a while. Let's not forget a member of the original executive team was a sex pest too. For like 10 years the only feature development they did was by stealing ideas from GitLab. I wouldn't be shocked if little if none engineering discipline has took place at all during this time if it's this brittle to frequent change. Guessing it was mostly held together with duct tape and poorly written tests/monitoring systems if any other corporate driven software. We're really going to find out over the next few years which businesses have good practices or not.

HeWhoLurksLate 2mo ago

Even if their actions running servers were at 50% load (or even 20%) at the end of 2025, they'd be screwed right now, at this point it's as much a tech/scaling problem as it is a CapEx problem and a construction one. Given the public's responses to AI specific datacenters you can't pick everything. Even my own systems at home are burgeoning under the load of the my more ambitious hobby projects I'm doing for fun. I don't envy "we had to build five more datacenters to keep up with demand" class problems just from a how many people have to sign off on them perspective let alone the technical difficulty of doing so

habinero 2mo ago

Are you kidding? That's an insane amount of load increase to manage. "Scalability" isn't one thing, especially not at that level, so it's ridiculous to knock them for it. That amount of load ripples across your entire infrastructure.

shimman 2mo ago
They have the backing of a trillion dollar corporation and can literally hire some of the best talent on the planet. People nor budgets are an issue here. Why do we keep giving excuses to poor engineering disciplines + poor management? This problem is entirely GitHub's making and acting like it's some unplanned natural disaster is low key pathetic.
pdimitar 2mo ago
Not hiring 20-25 year olds with social science Ph.D.-s would be a good start (don't remember where I saw that a while ago). Next: proficient engineering managers, not just people who immediately bend a knee to the middle manager. Oh wait, I went into sci-fi territory again. My bad.