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It was never officially released, but it was on the front page of epic launcher for years, even after fortnite took off. The online experience was fairly comple

It was never officially released, but it was on the front page of epic launcher for years, even after fortnite took off. The online experience was fairly complete and enjoyable (for people with experience) for ctf, duel, tdm, and team arena master. But yeah, epic didn't support it as much as they could have.

doublerabbit 2mo ago
Eh, "boomer shooters" died along side with Halo and LAN parties. Minecraft was the final nail in the coffin. The knack and knowledge of hosting a dedicated server required skills. If you could one click button host a Quake 3 Arena server or UT, there would still be sort of a crowd. But not only that, if you were new: servers got toxic with the same grumpy players knowing every single trick in the map to one-shot kill you with a rail gun. It got frustrating playing the same bloody map each map change. "Oh yay, it's cs_office again" /s The whole genre got stale and never has been successfully reignited. As Discord to TeamSpeak; same misfortune. Fortnite killed Team Fortress, Overwatch killed Halo and Minecraft was the new digital lego. None of them required such a skill to play or host the game. It was refreshing for it's time. Not forgetting it was the upcoming of a new crowd of folk and as generations go, the old cards topple. Who hosted an BBS when the internet came to be? IRC today is pretty much stuck in dinosaur country and XMPP/Jabber never got a product which then was further nailed shut by Google & Co. It was epic fun for the era but it had a death bed waiting.
- busterarm 2mo ago
  Wut? We're in a Renaissance of boomer shooters right now. There's like hundreds of new ones and it's a popular category. Just check out civvie11's channel if you disbelieve. They're just all single player focused.
  - doublerabbit 2mo ago
    Single player maybe, but that's nothing compared to the likes of UT or Quake.
    - busterarm 2mo ago
      I don't know about that. I've pretty continuously been playing games like UT99, UT2k4, Quake (specifically Quake Fortress), TFC, AvP2 since release. Even things like Space Station 13 and King Arthur's Gold. It's not the only thing going anymore, but also people have orders of magnitude more choices. That's the thing that's missing today. Nothing is "dead", there's just too much competition now. Honestly the aforementioned games have had much more staying power than more recent multiplayer games. And they're mostly played by old men like me.
      - raffraffraff 2mo ago
        I haven't fired up UT99, UT2K4 or any of the Quakes for decades. Are there active servers where you could get a good DM session?
        sitzkrieg 2mo ago
        afps is pretty dead. there are a handful of people on qw, q2,q3 but if you don’t wanna dig around start with the microtransaction feature quake champions or the quake re release while people are playing it again. also shout out to banana shooter or straftat if you want a quick fix in a f2p game. it’s not really afpsy but pretty fast movement and wacky guns in both
        busterarm 2mo ago
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        lII1lIlI11ll 2mo ago
        For oldschool shooter experience you can just install Quake Live from Steam. You won't have trouble finding active servers in it.
- redsocksfan45 2mo ago
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- donatj 2mo ago
  I've never understood the appeal of the opposite. Modern gaming where you just play with different randos every round. When I was a kid playing Quake 3 I had different servers bookmarked, knew the players that ran the servers and the general crowd that hung around. Had friendships and rivalries. Modern multiplayer you may as well be playing bots. There's no community.
  - raffraffraff 2mo ago
    Xonotic has that old school feeling. It's an unfortunately tiny player base, and only a handful of servers with regular players. But if you are within ping of a busy server (like Jeff & Julius resurrection) you do run into the same people all the time, including the ones that run the servers.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Is there any community anywhere in life any more?
    - donatj 2mo ago
      There really isn't, and I hate it.
- bityard 2mo ago
  All of the things you mentioned still exist, they are just not mainstream. And maybe that's for the best. Small friendly communities keep them alive, not companies that need to keep messing with a working thing in order to justify a monthly subscription or ad revenue.
- seki285 2mo ago
  >Fortnite killed Team Fortress, Overwatch killed Halo I'm sorry, what?
keyringlight 2mo ago
IIRC, Epic had (still has?) the source for UT4 available as they were trying to push community contributions, mostly on the playable content side but I'm fairly sure they had the core game there, based off what is now a very old branch of UE4. The telling thing to me is if there was a huge demand for it there was no significant effort to pick up the torch, or even do yet another 'spiritual successor'.
- chupasaurus 2mo ago
  The source code repo is still on Epic's Github, not sure if everything else is that easy to get currently. The problem about picking it up by a 3rd party is the fun of getting approval on basically anything.
  - samplatt 2mo ago
    I compiled the project on a whim during COVID. It played okay. There was even a very small pool of players who had presumably just done exactly the same thing.

doublerabbit 2mo ago

Eh, "boomer shooters" died along side with Halo and LAN parties. Minecraft was the final nail in the coffin. The knack and knowledge of hosting a dedicated server required skills. If you could one click button host a Quake 3 Arena server or UT, there would still be sort of a crowd. But not only that, if you were new: servers got toxic with the same grumpy players knowing every single trick in the map to one-shot kill you with a rail gun. It got frustrating playing the same bloody map each map change. "Oh yay, it's cs_office again" /s The whole genre got stale and never has been successfully reignited. As Discord to TeamSpeak; same misfortune. Fortnite killed Team Fortress, Overwatch killed Halo and Minecraft was the new digital lego. None of them required such a skill to play or host the game. It was refreshing for it's time. Not forgetting it was the upcoming of a new crowd of folk and as generations go, the old cards topple. Who hosted an BBS when the internet came to be? IRC today is pretty much stuck in dinosaur country and XMPP/Jabber never got a product which then was further nailed shut by Google & Co. It was epic fun for the era but it had a death bed waiting.

busterarm 2mo ago
Wut? We're in a Renaissance of boomer shooters right now. There's like hundreds of new ones and it's a popular category. Just check out civvie11's channel if you disbelieve. They're just all single player focused.
- doublerabbit 2mo ago
  Single player maybe, but that's nothing compared to the likes of UT or Quake.
  - busterarm 2mo ago
    I don't know about that. I've pretty continuously been playing games like UT99, UT2k4, Quake (specifically Quake Fortress), TFC, AvP2 since release. Even things like Space Station 13 and King Arthur's Gold. It's not the only thing going anymore, but also people have orders of magnitude more choices. That's the thing that's missing today. Nothing is "dead", there's just too much competition now. Honestly the aforementioned games have had much more staying power than more recent multiplayer games. And they're mostly played by old men like me.
    - raffraffraff 2mo ago
      I haven't fired up UT99, UT2K4 or any of the Quakes for decades. Are there active servers where you could get a good DM session?
      - sitzkrieg 2mo ago
        afps is pretty dead. there are a handful of people on qw, q2,q3 but if you don’t wanna dig around start with the microtransaction feature quake champions or the quake re release while people are playing it again. also shout out to banana shooter or straftat if you want a quick fix in a f2p game. it’s not really afpsy but pretty fast movement and wacky guns in both
        busterarm 2mo ago
        [dead]
      - lII1lIlI11ll 2mo ago
        For oldschool shooter experience you can just install Quake Live from Steam. You won't have trouble finding active servers in it.
redsocksfan45 2mo ago
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donatj 2mo ago
I've never understood the appeal of the opposite. Modern gaming where you just play with different randos every round. When I was a kid playing Quake 3 I had different servers bookmarked, knew the players that ran the servers and the general crowd that hung around. Had friendships and rivalries. Modern multiplayer you may as well be playing bots. There's no community.
- raffraffraff 2mo ago
  Xonotic has that old school feeling. It's an unfortunately tiny player base, and only a handful of servers with regular players. But if you are within ping of a busy server (like Jeff & Julius resurrection) you do run into the same people all the time, including the ones that run the servers.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  Is there any community anywhere in life any more?
  - donatj 2mo ago
    There really isn't, and I hate it.
bityard 2mo ago
All of the things you mentioned still exist, they are just not mainstream. And maybe that's for the best. Small friendly communities keep them alive, not companies that need to keep messing with a working thing in order to justify a monthly subscription or ad revenue.
seki285 2mo ago
>Fortnite killed Team Fortress, Overwatch killed Halo I'm sorry, what?

keyringlight 2mo ago

IIRC, Epic had (still has?) the source for UT4 available as they were trying to push community contributions, mostly on the playable content side but I'm fairly sure they had the core game there, based off what is now a very old branch of UE4. The telling thing to me is if there was a huge demand for it there was no significant effort to pick up the torch, or even do yet another 'spiritual successor'.

chupasaurus 2mo ago
The source code repo is still on Epic's Github, not sure if everything else is that easy to get currently. The problem about picking it up by a 3rd party is the fun of getting approval on basically anything.
- samplatt 2mo ago
  I compiled the project on a whim during COVID. It played okay. There was even a very small pool of players who had presumably just done exactly the same thing.