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This is pretty good...simplifies the process and some of the items are out of order, but it describes the process pretty well. Keep in mind, even 20 year old c
by j_walter 2mo ago
This is pretty good...simplifies the process and some of the items are out of order, but it describes the process pretty well.
Keep in mind, even 20 year old chips have 6-700 steps in their process...it's a giant loop of Etch, Photo, Implantation, Furnace, Chemical Vapor Deposition, Physical Vapor Deposition, Chemical Mechanical Planarization, etc...don't forget the measurement steps and defect scans. State of the art chips take 3-4 months to complete this process and it's well over a thousand steps.
- kridsdale1 2mo agoA miracle masterpiece in every device and we throw them out in 3 years.
- j_walter 2mo agoIn some cases yes, in others no. As much as I love my new electronics I still play my 14 year old Xbox One, read on my 2012 Kindle Paperwhite and use multiple 5+ year old laptops that function almost the same as they did (running Linux helps). 3 years is not really the lifetime of most consumer electronics anymore...at least outside of the latest GPUs.
- inigyou 2mo agoThe latest GPUs will also be functional for longer than 3 years. They may or may not still be economically efficient for LLM companies to operate.
- theandrewbailey 2mo agoI work at an ewaste recycling company. Most of what we get is corporate IT department decommissions. It seems like most companies run things for about 5 to 10 years, as most desktops, laptops, and servers I've seen lately have 4th to 10th gen Intel CPUs, peaking around 8th gen. We occasionally get something with DDR5, but it's rare and often broken. If anything is sufficiently valuable, we try to resell it.[0] [0] https://www.ebay.com/str/evolutionecycling https://www.ebay.com/str/evolutionecycling
- ryanmcbride 2mo agoWho's "we" I have an R-Zone and a typewriter 3 feet away from me right now.
- HPsquared 2mo agoMonths?! Wow, I had no idea. So it's a very long pipeline.