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Some people want quick results. Some people want it to keep searching for a new math proof overnight without giving up, and they have money to burn. It seems l

Some people want quick results. Some people want it to keep searching for a new math proof overnight without giving up, and they have money to burn. It seems like giving it a time limit or a budget in dollars would be clearer, though? Or, keep searching until I come back to the computer and ask about progress.

pllbnk 2mo ago
The _Intelligence_ part of AGI should be able to guide the user through that without all the knobs.
- vanuatu 2mo ago
  intelligence is not omniscience though
  - stymaar 2mo ago
    Asking questions to clarify user intent is a very low bar for intelligence. A bar that all SOTA models fail consistently at though. (It's both funny and legit infuriating when Opus, after having made a dozen wild assumptions without checking with you, then comes back with a request for clarification on some mundane topic).
    - vanuatu 2mo ago
      but you can keep asking questions ad infinitum very nontrivial problem knowing when to stop and making assumptions
      - stymaar 2mo ago
        Yes, that requires some amount of intelligence, that's exactly my point.
- minimaxir 2mo ago
  OpenAI tried auto-routing with the initial GPT-5 release and it was immediately clear why that was a bad idea.
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dbbk 2mo ago
I don't understand this at all. Whenever I ask Gemini 3.1 Pro Extended, or Claude 5 Max something in chat, the most I ever wait is maybe 30 seconds. Is that really so bad?
- oceanplexian 2mo ago
  "Wait 30 seconds" as a concept has been totally incompatible with the web, smartphones, etc for about 20 years now.
- vitorgrs 2mo ago
  If you just want to know "When it's the next full moon", yes. Very bad as google can answer in 1s.
  - dbbk 2mo ago
    That I just type into Google.
    - vitorgrs 2mo ago
      That's also using AI :). ChatGPT already competes with Google...
      - dbbk 2mo ago
        I didn't say it didn't? Besides, for factual queries that don't need personalisation like that they can aggressively cache them.

pllbnk 2mo ago

The _Intelligence_ part of AGI should be able to guide the user through that without all the knobs.

vanuatu 2mo ago
intelligence is not omniscience though
- stymaar 2mo ago
  Asking questions to clarify user intent is a very low bar for intelligence. A bar that all SOTA models fail consistently at though. (It's both funny and legit infuriating when Opus, after having made a dozen wild assumptions without checking with you, then comes back with a request for clarification on some mundane topic).
  - vanuatu 2mo ago
    but you can keep asking questions ad infinitum very nontrivial problem knowing when to stop and making assumptions
    - stymaar 2mo ago
      Yes, that requires some amount of intelligence, that's exactly my point.
minimaxir 2mo ago
OpenAI tried auto-routing with the initial GPT-5 release and it was immediately clear why that was a bad idea.
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dbbk 2mo ago

I don't understand this at all. Whenever I ask Gemini 3.1 Pro Extended, or Claude 5 Max something in chat, the most I ever wait is maybe 30 seconds. Is that really so bad?

oceanplexian 2mo ago
"Wait 30 seconds" as a concept has been totally incompatible with the web, smartphones, etc for about 20 years now.
vitorgrs 2mo ago
If you just want to know "When it's the next full moon", yes. Very bad as google can answer in 1s.
- dbbk 2mo ago
  That I just type into Google.
  - vitorgrs 2mo ago
    That's also using AI :). ChatGPT already competes with Google...
    - dbbk 2mo ago
      I didn't say it didn't? Besides, for factual queries that don't need personalisation like that they can aggressively cache them.