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I found this doozy from someone trying to test out the feature: > After looking over Google’s advice, my key takeaway was that thieves are in much better shape
by jerlam 2mo ago
I found this doozy from someone trying to test out the feature:
> After looking over Google’s advice, my key takeaway was that thieves are in much better shape than me, and run both longer and faster than this nerdy writer has in more than two decades.
https://www.androidauthority.com/android-theft-detection-lock-test-3491674/ https://www.androidauthority.com/android-theft-detection-loc...
Personally, the main situation I'm concerned about is on a bus or train, where someone grabs your phone right and exits right before the door closes. But I already avoid spending a lot of time on the street with my head buried in my phone.
- artisinal 2mo agoPull the emergency handle and get your phone back. If you live in South America you might even be allowed to use lethal force doing so.
- dashdashu 2mo agolethal force against a thief of your smartphone seems disproportionate to me
- fennecfoxy 2mo agoI always agree with your statement when people discuss it from a purely theoretical philosophical/moral standpoint. But when it actually happens to you, as I have been violently mugged several times. Oh, would I push that button - pull that trigger and I'd rewind time so I can do it a few times over. Cathartic. These little fuckers hide out in alleyways late at night and they've made a career of it. They do it so often they embellish their muggings with other bits like choking and mock stabbing or slamming people's heads against pavements. So fuck 'em.
- devmor 2mo agoSo your stance is that it’s wrong, but you should be allowed to do it because it makes you very angry? What exactly would you think of anyone else applying that reasoning to anything in society? Would you think that they belong in society?
- fennecfoxy 2mo agoNo, I'm saying it's only human to retroactively want to do extreme fantastical violence against people who have physically harmed you when you live in a society that a: does not care that you were hurt because you're a man and b: pressures men into fending for themselves, sorting out their own problems and "manning up". I'm not the type, myself. But damn, no wonder downtrodden men end up snapping - because they most often have nobody to turn to and are forced to exist within a bubble that analyses their weakness and victimhood as much as women are for beauty standards, etc.
- devmor 2mo agoOkay, that is a lot more understandable and I do agree. Sorry for the uncharitable take!
- fennecfoxy 2mo agoIt's fine. Even re-reading what I'd said it does seem a little extreme, but I still believe the core idea of it. I'm just watching violent criminals in UK get early release while the hapless government and public cannot rub two neurons together to just build more prisons + address problems at the root (income inequality, rising prices, lack of things to do in smaller towns/villages).
- devmor 2mo agoAddressing the root of the issue needs to happen for sure, but I can tell you from here in the prison capital of the world, building more prisons does not help. Rehabilitation needs to be the core of the justice system, or all you do is create lifetime criminals.
- rcxdude 2mo agoMaybe, but these thieves might do more damage than just needing to replace the phone. Some of them will attempt to use the information on it for extortion or blackmail (which is why such a feature exists in the first place).
- artisinal 2mo agoDon’t forget the lifelong trauma you get from a robbery. I know people who stopped using public transport after getting their bag violently snatched from them.
- Leszek 2mo agoWhereas killing someone for stealing your phone will come with no trauma whatsoever?
- imchillyb 2mo agoViolence begets violence. A theft of a thousand plus dollar item is grand theft in the US. Ending a continual threat to society should be lauded not threatened. How many thefts, by a single individual, is tolerable before society is allowed to remove the threat with permanence? Ten? A hundred? A thousand? Some would answer one, single instance is enough for a weapons discharge. I would ask. How many times is allowable? The criminal has no care for society, or its lives, so why should society care about that life? Every life is sacred? Why?
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- roryirvine 2mo agoWhat about the hundreds of journeys you'll inevitably disrupt? Should your fellow passengers perhaps be free to use lethal force against you in return?
- artisinal 2mo agoI don’t mind being late for work if that means someone got their phone back and justice was served. I’m fairly certain my boss would give me a high five.
- danangReader 2mo agoIt is not emergency situation and in some city you would end up in big trouble/fine.
- artisinal 2mo agoBeing robbed is not an emergency situation?
- erikerikson 2mo agoNo risk to life and limb. Emotionally or psychologically it is significant but that's the traditional bar and blindspot.
- notsmarthuh 2mo ago[flagged]
- bodiekane 2mo agoStolen phone -> access to finances (through password reset emails/SMS or just apps on the phone) -> no ability to pay for medicine/healthcare -> death. Stolen phone -> post offensive things to users Twitter account -> fired from job -> lose healthcare -> death. Stolen phone -> send violent threat against police posing as phone owner -> SWAT team shoots on sight -> death.