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There's GrapheneOS. It's Canadian, not European. I'm not sure where LineageOS is from. BMW isn't the EU government. Like I said, someone has to actually do it.

by inigyou 3mo ago

There's GrapheneOS. It's Canadian, not European. I'm not sure where LineageOS is from. BMW isn't the EU government. Like I said, someone has to actually do it. BMW Actually Did It in a really user hostile way, and that's the best we have. Why is nobody Actually Doing It but good? Or why aren't we buying MNT products?

mosura 3mo ago
BMW behaviour is perfectly representative of the EU mentality. As is your comment. It is basically “someone else should do this properly and I will take the benefits” but not actually willing to put up the hard bit themselves.
- inigyou 3mo ago
  I'm talking about the government of the EU. You seem to be talking about all the countries and the people in the countries.
  - mosura 3mo ago
    You need to parse the word mentality in context. The root problem here is the EU is culturally broken, and until some grand disaster will simply decline ever further with everyone involved wondering why no one else is doing anything about it.
    - inigyou 3mo ago
      Why don't we export some better culture to Europe then? That would be a good place and now would be a good time for Americans to flee to.
      - mosura 3mo ago
        You couldn’t epitomize the problem more if you tried.
      - throw-the-towel 3mo ago
        Take up the White Man's burden— Send forth the best ye breed— Go bind your sons to exile To serve your captives' need; To wait in heavy harness On fluttered folk and wild— Your new-caught sullen peoples, Half devil and half child. </sarcasm>
      - filoleg 3mo ago
        > Why don't we export some better culture to Europe then? Because there is way more impact potential of doing so from within the US than from Europe. Also, because moving to another country with the primary intent to "export culture" is not something (I suspect) most people are interested in (I know I am not). Overall, it feels like a weird proposal. And I expect most of the residents of those countries to treat you with both suspicion and bewilderment, if you told them that this was your reason for moving to their country (and rightfully so, in my opinion).

by inigyou 3mo ago

mosura 3mo ago

BMW behaviour is perfectly representative of the EU mentality. As is your comment. It is basically “someone else should do this properly and I will take the benefits” but not actually willing to put up the hard bit themselves.

inigyou 3mo ago
I'm talking about the government of the EU. You seem to be talking about all the countries and the people in the countries.
- mosura 3mo ago
  You need to parse the word mentality in context. The root problem here is the EU is culturally broken, and until some grand disaster will simply decline ever further with everyone involved wondering why no one else is doing anything about it.
  - inigyou 3mo ago
    Why don't we export some better culture to Europe then? That would be a good place and now would be a good time for Americans to flee to.
    - mosura 3mo ago
      You couldn’t epitomize the problem more if you tried.
    - throw-the-towel 3mo ago
      Take up the White Man's burden— Send forth the best ye breed— Go bind your sons to exile To serve your captives' need; To wait in heavy harness On fluttered folk and wild— Your new-caught sullen peoples, Half devil and half child. </sarcasm>
    - filoleg 3mo ago
      > Why don't we export some better culture to Europe then? Because there is way more impact potential of doing so from within the US than from Europe. Also, because moving to another country with the primary intent to "export culture" is not something (I suspect) most people are interested in (I know I am not). Overall, it feels like a weird proposal. And I expect most of the residents of those countries to treat you with both suspicion and bewilderment, if you told them that this was your reason for moving to their country (and rightfully so, in my opinion).